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Old February 23rd, 2009, 23:47   #16
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It might turn out like that. I hope it does so I can get a P90 (favorite gun)
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Old February 23rd, 2009, 23:47   #17
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It depend what u focus on, Outdoor game? indoor game? both? All I know my brother has Aftermath Kraken but he can't bring it to Xtreme tactics because it is too fast.

But FPS isn't most important thing in game. meanwhile, Kraken is great gun for outdoor. For CQB, Look smaller guns. I see most people prefer submachine guns for CQB over assault rifle due to size advantage for CQB.
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Old February 23rd, 2009, 23:49   #18
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It depend what u focus on, Outdoor game? indoor game? both? All I know my brother has Aftermath Kraken but he can't bring it to Xtreme tactics because it is too fast.

But FPS isn't most important thing in game. meanwhile, Kraken is great gun for outdoor. Mp7 is good for CQB only since it is only $90 compare to other guns.
i use mine for CQB mind you i downgraded the spring in it xD.
a stock kraken is to high for defcon to .
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Old February 23rd, 2009, 23:50   #19
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I just got conformation that the AK version that I will probably buy is the 300 FPS version. I know that FPS isn't everything but either way I'm just using this to find out how much I want to airsoft.
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Old February 23rd, 2009, 23:51   #20
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yeah it is simple to downgrade for XT, but why bother do this when Mp7 is ready to go for cheaper price. I meet abut 5 different people who use Mp7 for CQB.
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Old February 23rd, 2009, 23:52   #21
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300 fps stock isn't to bad. is it tm part's compadable?
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Old February 23rd, 2009, 23:53   #22
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I have know idea. the site is https://www.cabelas.ca/index.cfm?pag...2=1387&ID=3475 so you might know better than me. If I would guess I would say it is.
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Old February 23rd, 2009, 23:57   #23
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looks like noobsak that didn't work lol.(noob is a freind of mine) but yeah it should take most tm parts.
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Old February 23rd, 2009, 23:59   #24
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Renting your first time might give you a better indication of if you want to go through with airsoft or not. Reason being that yes Kraken is a great starter gun but you should take a look at what's out there first.

Kinda like buying a car. You should shop around and look at the different cars available to you, do a test drive in some of them that you're interested in.
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Old February 23rd, 2009, 23:59   #25
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sweet all i really care about is the mags and maybe a tight bore barrel and maybe a better gear box.

true true L473ncy. I have tried my cousin's airsoft gun and I do like it so I think that I should own a gun but I just haven't been part of a game yet.

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Old February 24th, 2009, 00:29   #26
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Remember that the beauty of the Kraken and what it's good reputation is based on is not its initial quality as a starter gun. It's the fact that it's a cheap upgrade platform to a better gun. It has a lot of very useable parts that on their own would cost almost as much as the Kraken itself to buy separately. And it allows you to upgrade it one piece at a time until without breaking the bank. Then in the end, you can have yourself a nicely upgraded and reliable metal and wood AK that shoots every bit as well or better than a stock plastic TM at about the same price. That's what's so good with a Kraken.

I don't think that as a starter gun it's a very good gun. It's good for a tweaker who has another gun and wants as a cheap project gun or loaner. With some basic cleaning, shimming and regreasing, it can be a good gun, but stock it's hit or miss. And this basic preventative maintenance is out of most noobs' capabilities. And even moreso when it breaks and they don't know what to do to fix it.

Once you're 18 and age verified, you'll see that for not a whole lot more money than a Kraken, you get get something that's a much better starter gun. And if a Kraken is really what you're after, you'll even find lightly used Krakens that have had the initial maintenance performed on them. You're much better off going that route than with the Kraken you're looking at...
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Old February 24th, 2009, 00:47   #27
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I'm just looking for a have decent gun to go out to my cousin's cabin and shoot each other with. They all have around the same quality as the Kraken and with the it being the 30 FPS version I'm not looking for it to do much more that shoot. I hear what you are saying with it being more like a tune up gun than a starter gun but if I start diving in with the guns that you need to be AV for my cousin and his friends might start to hate me. This would be my first AEG but not my first airsoft gun. I received a cheap spring M4 from my mother last year to take out to the cabin. Yes I will probably get verified after I play a bit with an AEG and have some games under my belt.(Renting the places airsoft guns) But I feel the process of getting AV and buying a gun off here before I have actually played a game of airsoft is not worth the effort if I decide that I do not like airsoft in the future. I will take in to consideration what you have said and I thank you for your imput.

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Old February 24th, 2009, 00:56   #28
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Well in that case, the gun should work out ok. And keep in mind that if it does break, it's reparable and there are parts available. Although if you don't have ready access to someone who can fix them, you'll have to learn to do it yourself. Not like that's a very bad thing...
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Old February 24th, 2009, 00:57   #29
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which I will want to learn how to do anyway. Thanks again.
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Old February 24th, 2009, 01:31   #30
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Before you buy, the tf7's not a bad gun.
Seems to have around 280-300 fps, foregrip and stock are excellent. It has a good rof for its size, about 12 rps (720 rpm). But, it is your choice, I have heard a lot of good things about the kraken
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