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Old February 3rd, 2009, 17:03   #1
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Painting over Clearsoft - Legality?

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Old February 3rd, 2009, 17:10   #2
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It's not an issue of provincial bylaws. Firearms and weapons are under federal jurisdiction.

Orange tip has no legal significance in Canada.

Painting receiver from transparent to opaque can be interpreted as turning an imitation firearm into a replica firearm, and as such violates the Special Authority to Possess Regulations, leading to a possible Criminal Code violation.

There is no legal significance to painting magazines.

There is no firearm/weapon legal significance on trademarks.

There is no legal significance on dummy rounds, though CBSA believes otherwise.
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Old February 3rd, 2009, 19:42   #3
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Dunno why you'd want to spray paint a clear mag...

Only thing you might have problems with is the painting of the receiver. Although police will usually look that over if you're using it responsibly (eg. at games).

However please note that even if someone used a clear gun in a robbery it would still be considered armed robbery and the clear gun would be treated as if it were real (meaning harsher penalties).

Orange tip - only a US law, although in Canada there is a misconception that we require orange tips.

Trades - Only thing it might get you in hot water for is trademark/copyright infringement.

Dummy rounds - Not so sure, but I believe that they're OK (nothing comes to mind about dummy rounds). Plus you can get "bullet pens" and belt buckles and whatnot so I don't see why it would be illegal (visit here to get your very own bullet pens http://www.awelldressedbullet.ca ).
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Old February 4th, 2009, 20:50   #4
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Down here we were required to get police clearance of the weapons, and any loaner guns. I believe we initially had to contact the local chief of police just to get someone to come and clear the weapons. In the end, a police cruiser came down to make sure all the weapons were not real-arms replicas. We had to do this for two reasons:

First being that the reciever on all weapons was painted over, didn't matter of the colour
Second being that we always removed the craptastic orange flash-hider or painted the half-decent flash-hiders.

We were also instructed to keep possession of our "loaner" guns. They're just crappy little M4's from Wal-Mart that we purchased so that new players that joined us could experience the game without dumping 200-300$ on a weapon. By possesson of, they meant that we must have the weapons when they are not active. Even on the way to the match, we had to have them, they couldn't be in someone else's vehicle, even if that vehicle was directly in front/behind us (You should have seen the old lady's face when she saw 4 guys in camo with about 6 M4,s 2 AK47s, a L96 and a SiG552 in one car )

I don't know if all this was due to the fact that we play on someone elses property (We go 20 minutes or so outside the city to my brother's friend's uncle's place, because they own acres of forest and we play there) and not a real facility designated towards the sport, or if it's just strict law and whatnot.
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Old February 4th, 2009, 20:56   #5
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Down here we were required to get police clearance of the weapons, and any loaner guns. I believe we initially had to contact the local chief of police just to get someone to come and clear the weapons. In the end, a police cruiser came down to make sure all the weapons were not real-arms replicas. We had to do this for two reasons:

First being that the reciever on all weapons was painted over, didn't matter of the colour
Second being that we always removed the craptastic orange flash-hider or painted the half-decent flash-hiders.

We were also instructed to keep possession of our "loaner" guns. They're just crappy little M4's from Wal-Mart that we purchased so that new players that joined us could experience the game without dumping 200-300$ on a weapon. By possesson of, they meant that we must have the weapons when they are not active. Even on the way to the match, we had to have them, they couldn't be in someone else's vehicle, even if that vehicle was directly in front/behind us (You should have seen the old lady's face when she saw 4 guys in camo with about 6 M4,s 2 AK47s, a L96 and a SiG552 in one car )

I don't know if all this was due to the fact that we play on someone elses property (We go 20 minutes or so outside the city to my brother's friend's uncle's place, because they own acres of forest and we play there) and not a real facility designated towards the sport, or if it's just strict law and whatnot.
umm, she shouldn't have seen any guns, and the fact that she did proves that you are very irresponsible whit these guns and shouldnt have them. unless your on the field, no one should be able to see your guns and even then the public wouldnt see them.
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Old February 6th, 2009, 15:27   #6
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+1 for that, if 'old lady' types are seeing you with your AEGs you have already screwed up major and should be thanking your stars she didnt call 911 (lol clearly you didnt see the news when those guys were just 'looking' at their hunting rifles by the side of the road and got an ERT response for their troubles).
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Old February 6th, 2009, 16:16   #7
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You should transport your airsoft guns the same way you transport real steel - in a case (preferably locked, but not required for airsoft) and IN THE TRUNK of a vehicle where it can't be seen from the outside. At the very least, if you don't have a trunk (like in a van or hatchback), you cover the cases up so people don't see guns.

If you're driving around with guns visible in your car, you shouldn't be allowed to have guns in the first place.
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Old February 7th, 2009, 15:30   #8
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You should transport your airsoft guns the same way you transport real steel - in a case (preferably locked, but not required for airsoft) and IN THE TRUNK of a vehicle where it can't be seen from the outside. At the very least, if you don't have a trunk (like in a van or hatchback), you cover the cases up so people don't see guns.

If you're driving around with guns visible in your car, you shouldn't be allowed to have guns in the first place.
I wonder if airsoft would be helped by implementing some kinda mandatory(or voluntary...whatever) course like PAL so that people would all be on the same page reference the law and proper handling? Because, whilst common sense should prevail, it is not necessarily fair or reasonable to say that if an old lady saw your AEGs you shouldn't have them. At the moment there is no standard.
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Old February 7th, 2009, 15:44   #9
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It's not the "old ladies" you should be worried about. For most of their lives, guns were a tool, a common part of society, and necessary for survival in many cases.

The people who will cause you problems are going to those middle-aged (at the most) anti-gun-PETA-loving-educated-latte-drinking-social-advocate-soccer-moms who despise violence on TV, rate their kids video games for them and hate, absolutely hate guns in any form. Pppheeww!!

They will call the cops on kids playing with orange water pistols in the park for shit's sake, imagine what they would do if they saw you walking to your car wearing some BDUs, and LBV carrying an M4 with killer-super-sniper-death scope.

Use commone sense, keep your gear and guns secured, out of sight, and won't have to be explaining to cops at the side of the road what airsoft is and that it's really harmless. It's sad that the world has become that way, but you either live in it or take the next transport to Mars. I could lose my real guns just because someone calls a 1-800 number and says they're scared of me. No charges, no trial, no nothing.
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