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Old January 20th, 2009, 07:56   #16
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Lol a ban list for what? Some game admin wants to start banning people on the field because of what's been done on a forum?

Uh, not entirely. This was originally a ban due to a trade issue. Bans on trade issues are important because it ensures the integrity and trust of transacting online through ASC. In this instance the verifier knowingly circumvented the ban in order to enable this individual to conduct business again. This is a little beyond banning someone for using the F-word or something like that.

And yes, bans can occur because of on field actions and there are past precidents for it. It does not happen often, but when it does, there is generally board-wide consensus that its a good idea.

Bans are not taken lightly here, but when they do happen, its usually for a good reason. This particular case is pretty clear cut.
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Old January 20th, 2009, 12:06   #17
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Like Scarecrow said, people are banned for various reasons. If some one ripped off another person here do you really want them around your gear unsupervised? There have been people who have been banned for being ass hats and they have come back at later times under a different sign on. We often know about these people and as long as they don't act as asshats again we some times let them stay. Many of these people suffer from internet asshat syndrome and in face to face situations they're as nice as can be. I don't know what that says about a person who has a dr jekyll/mr hyde personality when they switch between off line and on line, but for the most part you don't see trade issues with those people.

As for being banned from games for the way you behave online, it has happened, I have a short list of people that it's happened to but it doesn't happen often. I've witnessed people excluded from games because they acted like a 12 year old on ASC. I've also witnessed people being banned from attending a game/club because of what they posted on ASC or other sites.
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Old January 20th, 2009, 13:12   #18
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This Madkill thing has really shocked me. and how long should a ban last is a good question. people do change as they grow up or are publicly brought out on there mistakes.

But yes i agree on having a public ban list.
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Old January 20th, 2009, 13:21   #19
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Even if it is not a public list the age verifiers should have some kind of black list. So people can not get re-verified under new accounts.
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Old January 20th, 2009, 13:25   #20
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i would say public with the reason(s) why they were banned so that people can determine if they want to have them at their games.

this would be a bit of work though
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Even if it is not a public list the age verifiers should have some kind of black list. So people can not get re-verified under new accounts.
Granted, I'm not a verifier, but I still think this was one of those isolated incidents and Lisa just wanted to inform people.
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Old January 20th, 2009, 18:32   #22
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no it dshouldnt be public i dont think, it should be a tool for the verifyers to help keep the integrity of the system
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no it dshouldnt be public i dont think, it should be a tool for the verifyers to help keep the integrity of the system
Unfortunately, that wasn't the case this time, and the verifier WAS the problem as far as integrity of the system goes...
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Old January 20th, 2009, 22:28   #24
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Even if it is not a public list the age verifiers should have some kind of black list. So people can not get re-verified under new accounts.
There is and has been a list that has been growing for about a year now that the age verifiers have access to in the Age Verifiers Section of these forums.
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Old January 20th, 2009, 22:43   #25
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Good to know thanks Bloodsport. I figured you guys had some system in place.
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Old January 20th, 2009, 23:40   #26
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Apparently Madkill denies all of this.

I don't like the look of this...

For those of you who can read french :

http://airsoftcanada.com/showthread.php?t=75184

Thx for the info guys, it's good to know that everything was clear at the beginning.
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Old January 21st, 2009, 01:11   #27
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This shouldn't have been posted.

/Drama Thread.
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Old January 21st, 2009, 16:45   #28
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This shouldn't have been posted.

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You shouldn't have posted in it.

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Old January 21st, 2009, 17:03   #29
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This shouldn't have been posted.

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No it should be posted.
ASC, like airsoft, work based on trust and honour. In this case, trust has been lost and honour or more like a reputation, has been put on the line.

This has to be known so people know that this place and admins cherish those values and protect them.

Oh and Ronan, it's the first time I say this to you, but you are a wanker! (o:
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Old January 23rd, 2009, 15:13   #30
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ok... but i think the custom title ypou give to him are not a proof of profesionalism ....
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