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Old January 12th, 2009, 17:09   #16
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No worries. By the way, love the avatar.
Thanks Bro! You just actually gave me the idea to use one as a kill rag!
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Old January 12th, 2009, 18:54   #17
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Yeah, I want to find a local retailer, So i can look at these high quality guns in person
www.007airsoft.com check out they're "instock" section, some decent guns there. I just ordered a Jing Gong M4a1..:smile:
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Old January 12th, 2009, 19:28   #18
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Jeff at Capital Airsoft is a great guy to deal with in PM so he's probably an even greater guy to deal with in person. Don't know if you're anywhere near him though. (He is in Edmonton).

Not sure if he does verification but he should be able to point you in the right direction.

Also check out Edmonton Airsoft (EAR) and Joint Operations Calgary (JOC).

Mach1 airsoft, Mopic, Shootsoft, and 007 all do sales outside of this forum although being Age Verified helps a lot. Any online seller affiliated with this forum you'll get quality stuff from. If they're not affiliated with this forum you're usually getting "crapsoft".

As for the Canadian Tire/Walmart stuff, if you are going to be plinking (shooting paper targets or pop cans in the backyard/basement) they're great, but I'd like to stress that they're NOT field worthy.
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Old January 12th, 2009, 19:33   #19
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There are a lot of things to consider. First and foremost, overall build quality. As mentioned above, Tokyo Marui has excellent quality control and manufacturing. Their guns are about the most reliable on the market. Their FPS is lower than most brands, but FPS isn't everything.

A very good inner barrel and good mechbox internals (gears, piston, seals, etc.) will have quite an impact on performance. For example, a well made gun shooting 320 FPS will outperform a poorly made one shooting 400 FPS.

A lot of performance also has to do with BB weight. .20's are probably the most common, but heavier rounds such as 0.23g, 0.25, 0.28, 0.30 and so on all have advantages and disadvantages. Generally a heavier round will increase accurate distance, but decrease overall velocity. It becomes a bit of trial and error to find what works best in which gun. For most guns between 300 and 350 FPS 0.25g works well.

Generally, as mentioned, anything from Tokyo Marui, Classic Army, and ICS are very good places to start. G&P, STAR/Ares, and VFC are higher end, but make very nice very good quality guns. G&G isn't bad but their internals aren't always good and generally need some preventative maintenance. JG is a brand that's on the low end and, to an extent, make good starting guns. The issue with the cheaper brands like JG is that the quality control isn't always there and it's possible to get a gun that will fir 1,000 rounds and break as it is to get one that will go 10,000 rounds without issue.


Walmart guns are not airsoft. They're not even close. A decent airsoft AEG will cost you $350-$450. The commonly accepted number to get into airsoft is $1,000, though you could concievably do it for less, but not under $500. After you buy the gun you still need batteries, a good charger (I can't stress that enough), magazines, and gear if you actually want to play.
Are you saying that STAR, G&P, VFC are better quality than classic army? I think that's a typo.... or at least i hope so.
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Old January 12th, 2009, 19:41   #20
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Are you saying that STAR, G&P, VFC are better quality than classic army? I think that's a typo.... or at least i hope so.
Why would that be a typo? The quality of those brands are well established, especially within the last year or so. They are all at least generally on par to CA, often better in terms of specific models or features.
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Old January 12th, 2009, 19:57   #21
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hmm, interesting, i always thought Classic Army, and TM were way better in terms of quality, i guess I'm not up-to date on these e things.
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Old January 12th, 2009, 20:22   #22
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Are you saying that STAR, G&P, VFC are better quality than classic army? I think that's a typo.... or at least i hope so.
Yea, I am.... because it's true.

I'd put CA on about the same level as TM. TM's internals are generally better, but CA's externals are better. CA doesn't have amazing internals. They're not terrible, but they're far from the best.
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