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Old September 5th, 2008, 15:19   #16
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Those results were obtained with "field legal" guns. It's those BBs that are messed up.

If you've ever seen a spark plug (porcelain) getting thrown at a car window, you know what I'm talking about.
Never heard of such a thing.
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Old September 5th, 2008, 15:25   #17
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It could appen if the glass is tempered. Laminated glass, like a windshield, require a lot of force to shater. I wonder what car window they dented in the pics. The back window is usually tempered, not laminated.
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Old September 5th, 2008, 15:28   #18
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I could see this as a problem but as a propetuator of realism....this is kick ass!

They won't hurt people any more but they will look more realistic hitting stuff! No more driving around in a jeep like it's a tank when you start to see the window cracking and shattering! Imagine the dramtic effects of having windows shattering and splinters of other things flying all over during a firefight inside. Field owners could find cheap disposable glass and plastic to replace every so often!

Haha, would be sweet....but somehow I doubt people will go for it, here at least.

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Old September 5th, 2008, 15:30   #19
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I played a game around actual building. BBs where punching holes in the plastic clabore of the houses. It was realistic, but pretty frustrating for the owner, and us since we did not want to do damages.
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Old September 5th, 2008, 15:39   #20
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The problem with these BBs is when playing in CQB situations. These BBs can and have shattered on impact (not with the player, but with hard building surfaces), as noted by the guys at Berget this year. These pieces are sharp, and can penetrate around the edges of eyewear. This is the main concern voiced by the European crowd who has had some experience with them.
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Old September 5th, 2008, 15:50   #21
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Never heard of such a thing.
Supposedly if you break the ceramic off a spark plug to about the size of your pinky nail and throw it, flick it, or shoot it with a rubber band, etc, it should shatter the tempered glass.
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Old September 5th, 2008, 16:42   #22
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Supposedly if you break the ceramic off a spark plug to about the size of your pinky nail and throw it, flick it, or shoot it with a rubber band, etc, it should shatter the tempered glass.
tested that in high school the entire plug someone drop a plug for the second lever in our shop (its like 12 feet of the ground) the car was raised so the plug fell 4 feet at most touched the rear window and crash barely any force was needed to shatter the window made a bloodly great sound though.
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Old September 5th, 2008, 16:48   #23
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Theory: Ceramic is denser than glass.
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Old September 5th, 2008, 17:02   #24
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Theory: Ceramic is denser than glass.
we need bill nye the science guy to confirm....

on the note of the bbs... if they are doing that much damage, would it not be stupid to play with them... ya ya it may look cool driving a jeep while the windows are getting shattered, but what about your eye protection? i know they are balistics rated but at some point they will start to crack
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Old September 5th, 2008, 17:25   #25
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Wow, seriously, I'm surprised not more people are familiar with the spark plug thing... considering the crowd of hoodlums in this place (j/k)

So here's some Friday afternoon entertainment for you:

YouTube - tempered glass vs. spark plug

YouTube - Ceramic and Glass

YouTube - Breaking car window with spark plugs
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Old September 5th, 2008, 18:20   #26
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I hear that it has something to do with the charge on the ceramic disturbing the "equilibrium" within the glass crystals and causing it to shatter...
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Old September 6th, 2008, 02:51   #27
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i'm sure this has something to do with harmonics.

MacGuyver nonetheless
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Old September 6th, 2008, 05:09   #28
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As suprising as it sound, glass is actually in liquid state.
I don't remember all the details, but you can see it in old windows, as they get all deformed with time.
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Old September 6th, 2008, 05:52   #29
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Wow, seriously, I'm surprised not more people are familiar with the spark plug thing... considering the crowd of hoodlums in this place (j/k)

So here's some Friday afternoon entertainment for you:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JxNvcsbxhfE

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6RXBxeXU3sM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wUgsi9gQBeA
i think the real question is where do you find ceramic bbs...
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Old September 6th, 2008, 14:36   #30
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i think the real question is where do you find ceramic bbs...
From a Chinese Ceramic Ball Bearing manufacturer, of course.
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