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Old May 14th, 2008, 14:56   #46
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I'd also like to add in here that my father would be willing to lend almost all of his tools to help with this, provided they are all in working condition come a time when they might be needed. He also has access to the heavier machinery needed to dig holes/ form the foundations of any structures that need it. Gotta love having an in to the construction industry.

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Old May 14th, 2008, 17:38   #47
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It would take a log time I think to reconfigure the structures... a wall made of plywood on either side of 18"-centered studs 10' tall would weigh a considerable amount. Not to mention the trouble of removing a plywood floorboard to put in this new piece and then putting a new sheet back down.

It might be easier to just redesign the interior of buildings in the off-season every year.
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...not that that would be cheap.
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Old May 14th, 2008, 18:11   #48
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Some times you must sink outzide ze bocks! voila




...not that that would be cheap.
....am I the only one who suddenly had visions of buidlings being used as mobile bunkers? I could totally see someone doing that. Fun concept though...

And as a note, the idea behind the modular setup was is that you would be able to change it once a week/month/whever. This would not be something to do daily.
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Old May 14th, 2008, 18:28   #49
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I don't know if you really need to change the setup every week or so, once a season seems good enough. Also, it might just be easier and cheaper to hire a kid to sweep up the majority of bbs after a day. Just have on one exit a place where they can can be swept into a bucket.
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I don't know if you really need to change the setup every week or so, once a season seems good enough. Also, it might just be easier and cheaper to hire a kid to sweep up the majority of bbs after a day. Just have on one exit a place where they can can be swept into a bucket.
You don't NEED to change the setup once a week...but you could if you REALLY wanted to. Once a month would be cool, too...or have certain "presets" i.e. "This week is Mogandishu, next week is Berlin!" or w/e...you see what I mean?

And that's what my dad mentioned when I brought up the floor angling...
"Leafblower."
Clearly the best way to clean up BBs.
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Old May 14th, 2008, 18:47   #51
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I agree it would be really awesome to change often and for special events, I just don't see it being cost-effective.

The leafblower idea is probably the easiest, but just as effective as a broom.
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Well, its good to see such an intelligent discussion about this, its an idea alot of us have from time to time, but the main point to realize, is it will not support you financially. Paintball is different, they can get 200 people a day, we are lucky to get 50 players on a decent day, not including large milsim games, Im reffering to skirmish games, ect. I wont blabber about all that, because I am all for this idea.

It is actualy an idea I had about a year ago, and I even discussed it with the owner of Airsoft Canada briefly, what would be a better field to play at than the official ASC field. Your on the same page I am with indoor building, with a nice outdoor field as well, maybe even split up into a couple fields, woodland, open, ect but can also be used all together for large games. As well as having a small shop, rental, and gun repair on location.

Location is key, Ontario and Quebec have the largest airsoft population, so a location convinient for the mass of players, GTA, Ottawa, and Quebec would benefit greatly. However these benifits would only happen with large milsim games, as long as its a good location with accomodations( camping, water, toilet, food, ect) for large weekend games, they would make the trip. Then regular weekend you have your local players.

It would be something you run like a snowmobile club for example, just recreation, not career, something to really benifit our community, bring us all together in one, private(ASC) place on weekends, something thats ours, as were used to playing as guests at paintball fields.

Im all for discussing this further, just my few cents and that I still could get involved in this in many ways, including investing.
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Old May 14th, 2008, 19:05   #53
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Changing the set up regularly is important... but weekly I don't think is required.

Here is my suggestion.

Build L shape buildings.. make sure there is a door and a window on each wall. Then you can change the configuration by altering which doors and windows are open.

In a group of buildings having the ability to change the available lines of domination from each building has the effect of reconfiguring the access of advance and dead zones around each structure. It completly changes the tactical problem and eliminates the ability of regular players to memorize the dead zones.

Having moveable field Obsticals , barrels and boxes. Vehicles will help to change up the lines. It does not take large changes to have significant effects.
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This is another thread that needs sticking.
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Just one quick thing to remember. It takes money to make money. Be ready to shell out huge greens!
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Old May 14th, 2008, 20:30   #57
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Just one quick thing to remember. It takes money to make money. Be ready to shell out huge greens!
As mentioned above, this is a project for the future. I'm counting time here in years...most likely at least a decade before I can get all the planning laid out, approvals done, everything cleared, bought, built, etc. And I also have to have full ownership of the land first. So for now it's a collection of interesting ideas that I'm putting on paper. If I don't manage to make this work, at least it's there for someone else.
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Old May 14th, 2008, 20:33   #58
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Actually, your BB reusing idea might work. I work at a golf course and after I pick the range I put the golf balls in a machine and it automaticly cleans them and they just roll out a funnel. If you could get a machine that could do that with BB's, that would save you tons of money.
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Actually, your BB reusing idea might work. I work at a golf course and after I pick the range I put the golf balls in a machine and it automaticly cleans them and they just roll out a funnel. If you could get a machine that could do that with BB's, that would save you tons of money.
I think part of the concern is the structural integrity of the BBs as well...they'd be impacting walls, and next time you peg someone in the goggles, who knows if the BB will break?
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Actually, your BB reusing idea might work. I work at a golf course and after I pick the range I put the golf balls in a machine and it automaticly cleans them and they just roll out a funnel. If you could get a machine that could do that with BB's, that would save you tons of money.
You may be able to clean them, but used BB's are still a bad idea, due to the fact that they can crack or chip depending on what surface they hit. BB's with burrs, cracks may cause damage to the guns.
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