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Old January 28th, 2008, 19:49   #16
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I can see the RCMP letting something like manufacturing pseudo-realistic receivers slide, I cannot see them letting the manufacturing of realistic receivers slide. It's illegal to manufacturer replica firearms in Canada. People who build entire guns out of aftermarket guns technically break that law, but so few people do that and on such a small scale that it's not really an issue. If you start mass production of realistic receivers, that's going to change.
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Old January 28th, 2008, 19:51   #17
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Well if it's a rectangular/square-ish shape then I'm pretty sure you can take a piece of steel, use a machine to cut out the holes needed in the part (or you could buy a pre-cut) and just use another machine or Mr. Norris to bend it into shape. Just don't tell anyone.

I think it'd be only useful for guns like glocks and AK variants, unless you had some metalworking skills.
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Old January 28th, 2008, 19:55   #18
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Or make your realistic receivers, but don't make them out of any material that's strong enough to withstand being an actual real steel receiver. That might help things?
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Old January 28th, 2008, 19:56   #19
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However, I WISH someone with the right tools and skills could start producing metal slides and outer barrels for GBBs. Although I could be mistant, those shouldn't be illegal to produce, since they're legal to import. I would pay top dollar to get a high-quality CNC machines part made of quality metal rather than the pot metal shit that we currently get.
Metal slides and barrels are supposedly still legal to import. Don't take my word for it though. I've had over $500 in metal slides and mags seized before. Unfortunately, there are no easy ways to reproduce GBB frames that could bypass the replica definition...
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Old January 28th, 2008, 19:57   #20
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Obviously this situation is the perfect excuse for Carl to bring out his line of pulse rifles...
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Old January 28th, 2008, 19:57   #21
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Or make your realistic receivers, but don't make them out of any material that's strong enough to withstand being an actual real steel receiver. That might help things?
No, the very essence of the replica firearm definition is that it only has to look like a real gun. It can be made out of chocolate and it wouldn't matter.

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Obviously this situation is the perfect excuse for Carl to bring out his line of pulse rifles...
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Old January 28th, 2008, 19:59   #22
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No, the very essence of the replica firearm definition is that it only has to [i]look[/u] like a real gun. It can be made out of chocolate and it wouldn't matter.
I said it might help things, as in the authorities might let it slide, or it might help our case because it's not real steel.
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Old January 28th, 2008, 20:06   #23
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I said it might help things, as in the authorities might let it slide, or it might help our case because it's not real steel.
You should know by now that the RCMP and the police in general will not "help" your case. These are the guys that wanna see civilians unarmed. It's been kinda apparent that they have been making it much more difficult to obtain/use/have firearms(airguns, airsoft, powderburners) in general.
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Old January 28th, 2008, 20:08   #24
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I said it might help things, as in the authorities might let it slide, or it might help our case because it's not real steel.
The same inability to fire real cartridges because of lack of real steel mechanical and structural features doesn't help airsoft guns, because as I said, the material is not the issue. We're still dealing the same authority, the CFC, that tells the CBSA most of the things that the CBSA currently believes.
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Old January 28th, 2008, 20:15   #25
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ok i will try to make this legable. the tools are not a probelm schools and places have cnc machines. hell i have a small cnc machin in my basment they expesive like 1500 for small ones and hell yu can get small lathes for that price too that will cut a peice of 12 inch aluminim. the problem is the fact that making a relistic or a reciver at that part for an air gun would be legal. if i could call the rcmp up and say hay guys i am going to take a peice of aluiminum and make it to look like an a reciver for an assult type whepon and they sadi fine as long as it could not be made into a workable reciver for a armlight then hell i ahve the tools to make them. but being relistic they would not say theat they problay out me on a list to be radied. but goot good point on slides that would be some thing to look around for because a size of a peice of aluminin(i only refer to aluminium because thats all my cnc can cut seeing its a small portable cnc machine and seeing my work would problay have a problem with me using theirs to cut steal) then it would only cost maby about 40 bucks max for top grade to porduce this so 60 for works then you could disturbuit them out to engravers like the one in tronoto to get it made mre realistic. but until i see its legal i would highly suggest not doing it wut so ever unless you dont mind being raided.
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Old January 28th, 2008, 20:16   #26
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You know what government in history didnt want it civilian population armed???
Totalitarian regime like the Nazi...

http://constitutionalistnc.tripod.co...tist/id14.html
Wasnt only jews but all citizen had to be approved to buy sporting weapons
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Old January 28th, 2008, 20:22   #27
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lol god bless america lmao the right to up hold arms.
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Old January 28th, 2008, 20:23   #28
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Since the RCMP took over the administration of the CFC, many laws that were on the books started to actually get enforced. Not that this should be a surprise, as that's what the RCMP is there to do. Multi-Province ATTs, gun club classifications, issuance of prohibited license renewals and many more that I can't think of right now. It should be no surprise that the recent troubles by some at the CBSA are in direct relationship to the RCMP becoming actively involved in firearms control, all firearms, real or replica.

Start manufacturing bodies for weapons (treated as real until ruled otherwise) in this environment would be just plain dumb. Wait until some heat cools down, a year or 2 maybe, then look at manufacturing bodies after you have some kind of approval to do so (either classification for a non-replica or a license to manufacture).

There's more than enough guns already in Canada to have 1,000+ person games, what more do you want?
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Old January 28th, 2008, 20:25   #29
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ok i will try to make this legable. the tools are not a probelm schools and places have cnc machines. hell i have a small cnc machin in my basment they expesive like 1500 for small ones and hell yu can get small lathes for that price too that will cut a peice of 12 inch aluminim. the problem is the fact that making a relistic or a reciver at that part for an air gun would be legal. if i could call the rcmp up and say hay guys i am going to take a peice of aluiminum and make it to look like an a reciver for an assult type whepon and they sadi fine as long as it could not be made into a workable reciver for a armlight then hell i ahve the tools to make them. but being relistic they would not say theat they problay out me on a list to be radied. but goot good point on slides that would be some thing to look around for because a size of a peice of aluminin(i only refer to aluminium because thats all my cnc can cut seeing its a small portable cnc machine and seeing my work would problay have a problem with me using theirs to cut steal) then it would only cost maby about 40 bucks max for top grade to porduce this so 60 for works then you could disturbuit them out to engravers like the one in tronoto to get it made mre realistic. but until i see its legal i would highly suggest not doing it wut so ever unless you dont mind being raided.
No offense but you still need to use capitalization and grammar, and not to mention a spell checker.
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Old January 28th, 2008, 20:28   #30
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thast why i stated the parts are in canada the making them is easy will i do it nope not unless i could find a way to obtain the proper licences to opperat this thing. so i agree unless your going to be shady about it and keep it on low keep and get caught and porblay get charaged and porblay get raided then i porblay let this one die unless some one knows were to get the permets. i dont belive making in country bodys would become legal untill airsoft was made legal to own in canada maenign you could import them perosnaly.
and as i have stated befour why the hell do you think i became a trades person i have a hell of a damed time spelling lol. so bare with me
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