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Old January 16th, 2008, 19:45   #16
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Yeah, I was wondering about that. Legal limit in Canada's 500fps, so I was sorta curious about why retailers would try to market a "sniper" rifle that has the same capabilities of a normal gun.

I asked because I remembered a post a ways back regarding someone else wanting to buy a sniper rifle. Someone told him you were not allowed (on some fields) to fire at someone at less than X meters away since the high muzzle speed might injure someone.

And why would you need a spotter if you can't hit anything further than 200m anyways?
It's 500 FPS OR a certain Joule limit.

To get an airsoft to that limit with a .2 gram BB you'd need to be shooting 720 FPS

(If I remember correctly, don't quote me on this.)
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Old January 16th, 2008, 19:51   #17
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Because a spotter is handy to help you

A. Cover you in twigs , leaves and foliage.
B. Cover and support your ass in a close fire fight. Especially if a sniper doesnt carry a anything more than a pistol as a side arm.
C. Keep you company and watch your back when your sniping and focused on whats infront of you, sometimes you dont know whats comming up behind you.
D. Be bait by sitting about 30 feet ahead and chain smoking singing quotes from H.M.S. Pinafore
I'm not sure if you are seriouse but lmao, you are my hero.
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Old January 16th, 2008, 19:53   #18
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D. Be bait by sitting about 30 feet ahead and chain smoking singing quotes from H.M.S. Pinafore
How much booze do I need to bring to get someone to do this?
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Old January 16th, 2008, 19:56   #19
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Old January 16th, 2008, 20:03   #20
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Exaggeration of course, but its not like your going to be hitting a pop can at 300ft on the first pull.
Pretty sure something like that HAS been done before... BA ASGs are alot more accurate than AEGs..
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Old January 16th, 2008, 20:04   #21
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Ive got a pill bottle on my desk with a 6 month supply of xanax, I dont need booze.

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Old January 16th, 2008, 20:20   #22
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It's 500 FPS OR a certain Joule limit.

To get an airsoft to that limit with a .2 gram BB you'd need to be shooting 720 FPS

(If I remember correctly, don't quote me on this.)
Must be 500fps AND 5.7 Joules or over to be considered a firearm in this country. AND being the critical factor. But you got the rest right, around 720-740fps with a 0.20g BB.

New guy (jaa) asking about sniping, it's almost useless in airsoft unless used properly. Camping really plays a very minor part (less than 5% as far as I'm concerned) in the game. Now, stalking forward and slipping into a position undetected and radioing intel back to base/commander/teammates IS a very useful part of being an airsoft sniper, as well as the sniper working alone and playing psychological warfare games with the other team, a couple silent BBs out of now where, spaced a period of time apart (like 2mins or 10mins), really can fuck with a group of guys, sometimes even tying them up for a half hour AFTER the sniper left the area.

No airsoft rifle can hit a pop can at 300ft, unless it's shit luck and lots of plastic downrange to repeat it. Even if the gun is well over 600-650fps with a 0.20g BB, it's literally a hit or miss thing, heavy on the miss. Some brag they can do it, but Mother Nature trumps them pretty much every time unless lucky, due to the nature of airsoft having much more in common with musketballs than bullets.

Minimum distance? Depends on the rifle and what it's shooting, for me with my 500fps w/0.20g BB M24, it's literally 100ft minimum (unless conditions are perfect and I can take a 99.9% safe shot on a chest rig or peice of webbing, I might take an 80ft shot), but I've had many times I've decided not to take a shot on a person even at 100ft simply because it didn't feel right to me. And I've backed off at times to a bit more comfortable distance for me to shoot someone. Hence the amount of respect and leeway I get at most games. I'd really fucking cautious who and what distance I take my shots at. Of course I'm more hunter than camper, and my rifle is ALWAYS on my back as a special use gun, it's never my primary. My primary is always either my MK23 or one of my MP5s.

And spotters are just asskissers, they make the sniper feel warm inside like a security blanket on their cheek, and not lonely. To me spotters are one thing I can't control, and often get me in shit. I get in shit just fine by myself, but I like having my mistakes as my own, and not someone who wasn't careful while following me around. Personally, I'm much happier and more successful on my own than I am with a spotter.

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Old January 16th, 2008, 20:30   #23
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Old January 16th, 2008, 21:51   #24
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How much booze do I need to bring to get someone to do this?
Who's buying and what type? I'll do it, although I won't be singing. I'll hire someone to sit in my place while I sit in the staging area drinking. Remember, the key to being a successful airsoft sniper is to deny even being on the field. Lmfao!

And the key to being a GODLY airsoft sniper is to have other players blame YOU for kills you didn't do, but you got accused of doing by other snipers. Odd as it is, SniperChic smacked a guy's goggles at 200ft during a game, and she heard "Fuck!! STALKER YOU ASSHOLE!!!!" I heard about this later, it's been an ongoing joke between her and myself for almost two years now. Best part, if I was 500-700ft away at that point, and I got credit for the kill................
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airsoft sniper rifles have the accuracy of a paper airplane
You know NOTHING about sniping, do ya? lol
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Old January 16th, 2008, 22:36   #27
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Who's buying and what type? I'll do it, although I won't be singing. I'll hire someone to sit in my place while I sit in the staging area drinking.
Steam Whistle... or maybe Guinness
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Old January 16th, 2008, 22:37   #28
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When the balls whistle free
O'er the bright blue sea,
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When at anchor we ride
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Old January 16th, 2008, 22:43   #29
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Im not exactly sure but i know the movies and video games have completely romanticized snipers. The truth is that you and your spotter, or in the canadian forces 3 man sniper teams lie for hours even days and wait. You cant really move at all. Thats about it.
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Old January 16th, 2008, 22:51   #30
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Ahoy! Ahoy!
Ahoy! Ahoy!
We stand to our guns, to our guns all day

We sail the ocean blue,
And our saucy ship's a beauty;
We're sober men and true,
And attentive to our duty.

Our saucy ship's a beauty,
We're attentive to our duty,
We're sober men and true,
We sail the ocean blue.

But you gotta remeber though as CDN_Stalker said, its not just about laying in wait and picking people off from afar. You can scout, and relay intel and you can also distract and harass the enemy and keep them distracted.
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