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Old January 8th, 2008, 12:37   #106
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Someone should call the media. Anyone know anyone at City TV, the Star etc?
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Old January 8th, 2008, 12:39   #107
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Glad to hear.. If not all come back at least you will get some.. and most likely compensation for the rest I hope. Nail em with the books.. Considering this is a Grand Theft Charge they are probably looking at a year or more.. I would suggest 2 years less a day. They have to do 2/3 minimum if they are good and well its a good stint for $30k+ Robbery and Illegal Possession.
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Old January 8th, 2008, 12:54   #108
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Glad to hear the little buggers were caught. Hope they get what's coming.
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Old January 8th, 2008, 16:27   #109
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Someone should call the media. Anyone know anyone at City TV, the Star etc?
Maybe it's a good thing (that it didn't make the news); some anti-gun soccer mom is likely to catch it and try to turn it into "if they hadn't been there to steal it wouldn't have happened."

(yes, i know that's retarded -- but few gun-grabber arguments aren't)
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Old January 8th, 2008, 17:14   #110
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Very true. Just like it's the responsible (legal) gun owners who take all the shit for what the criminals do with firearms. More and more gun control instead of stiffer sentences.
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Maybe it's a good thing (that it didn't make the news); some anti-gun soccer mom is likely to catch it and try to turn it into "if they hadn't been there to steal it wouldn't have happened."

(yes, i know that's retarded -- but few gun-grabber arguments aren't)
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Old January 9th, 2008, 15:42   #111
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Its time like this where I wish there wasn't a YCJA(Youth Criminal Justice Act) so they will only get a couple months in juvie, or maybe just community service and a slap on the wrist knowing the justice system now. If that was me, knowing where those punks lived, I'd go and show them what its like to go through a B&E.
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Old January 9th, 2008, 16:32   #112
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If that was me, knowing where those punks lived, I'd go and show them what its like to go through a B&E.
Personally, I'd rather show them what it's like to go through a 3rd story plate glass window.
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Old January 9th, 2008, 16:34   #113
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Happy to hear they got busted, hopefully all his stuff will be returned. Ive been ripped off a few times, its a really shitty feeling besides the fact you lost lots of money.
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Old January 9th, 2008, 17:23   #114
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Its time like this where I wish there wasn't a YCJA(Youth Criminal Justice Act) so they will only get a couple months in juvie, or maybe just community service and a slap on the wrist knowing the justice system now.
With utmost respect to Lawdog, I rarely refer to what we have in Canada as a "justice system", even in my classroom. When my students ask why, I explain that we have a set of laws that has to be enforced, so a better term is "legal system", since so many of the public feel that there is little or no actual "justice" in our "justice system" - in many cases, the victim ends up worse off than the criminal. Only in Canada can an off-duty police officer get pissed up, kill the mother of one of my students via DUI, and then get to serve his sentence (2 years less a day) in the community....sorry, that's not justice, that's a f*cking disgrace.

Personally, I'd like to see that the YCJA scrapped and replaced with something with teeth. Around my neighborhood, people could care less about "rehabilitating misguided youth" and more about "keep the friggen criminals out of my house, from stealing my car, and from mugging me at 7-11".

I work with kids all day, every day, and I work in a program specializing in "troubled youth". You can't convince me that a child of 14 or 15 isn't capable of Mens Rea (the ability to have criminal intent). I've worked with a few severely handicapped kids that might not, but any "reasonably normal" 14 year old who attends public school knows that stealing is wrong, murder is wrong, rape is wrong, etc. The parents can be lazy as hell, but we still teach them what's right and wrong in school under the banner of "Social responsibility".....

I'd like to see the minimum age kids can be charged set at age 12 - that's Grade 7 and the start of Junior High School. Kids that young are still immature enough to make bad choices and should be allowed to make a mistake and not have it ruin their life. However, I think the minimum age you should be tried (and sentenced) as an adult at 14. By then, you know what's right and what's wrong, and you make decisions for yourself. If a 15 year old gangbanger shoots a firearm through the front window of a house and kills a pregnant woman (as happened in Winnipeg last week), he should go away for 20 years.

I'm not even gonna get into the other bleeding-heart flaws in our so-called "justice" system (double credit for time served before trial/sentencing, early release for good behaviour, yadda yadda). I'm just glad to hear these asshat got caught, even if there's not going to be any justice.....
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Old January 9th, 2008, 17:25   #115
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With utmost respect to Lawdog, I rarely refer to what we have in Canada as a "justice system", even in my classroom. When my students ask why, I explain that we have a set of laws that has to be enforced, so a better term is "legal system", since so many of the public feel that there is little or no actual "justice" in our "justice system" - in many cases, the victim ends up worse off than the criminal. Only in Canada can an off-duty police officer get pissed up, kill the mother of one of my students via DUI, and then get to serve his sentence (2 years less a day) in the community....sorry, that's not justice, that's a f*cking disgrace.

Personally, I'd like to see that the YCJA scrapped and replaced with something with teeth. Around my neighborhood, people could care less about "rehabilitating misguided youth" and more about "keep the friggen criminals out of my house, from stealing my car, and from mugging me at 7-11".

I work with kids all day, every day, and I work in a program specializing in "troubled youth". You can't convince me that a child of 14 or 15 isn't capable of Mens Rea (the ability to have criminal intent). I've worked with a few severely handicapped kids that might not, but any "reasonably normal" 14 year old who attends public school knows that stealing is wrong, murder is wrong, rape is wrong, etc. The parents can be lazy as hell, but we still teach them what's right and wrong in school under the banner of "Social responsibility".....

I'd like to see the minimum age kids can be charged set at age 12 - that's Grade 7 and the start of Junior High School. Kids that young are still immature enough to make bad choices and should be allowed to make a mistake and not have it ruin their life. However, I think the minimum age you should be tried (and sentenced) as an adult at 14. By then, you know what's right and what's wrong, and you make decisions for yourself. If a 15 year old shoots a firearm through the front window of a house and kills a pregnant woman (as happened in Winnipeg last week), he should go away for 20 years.

I'm not even gonna get into the other bleeding-heart flaws in our so-called "justice" system (double credit for time served before trial/sentencing, early release for good behaviour, yadda yadda). I'm just glad to hear these asshat got caught, even if there's not going to be any justice.....
you would love the law in Singapore
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Old January 9th, 2008, 17:27   #116
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Id have to agree with that 100%. (not the Singapore part)
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Old January 9th, 2008, 17:36   #117
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Id have to agree with that 100%. (not the Singapore part)
why not??? you got to be stupid to pull a stunt like B&E or you must have a high tolerance for pain, for me I rather see punks get the cane and an education rather than them getting to spend time in jail lifting weights and having time to blame everyone but themselves at my expense
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Old January 9th, 2008, 17:39   #118
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Eye for an eye. Life for a life. If you steal from someone, you forfeit all your personal belongings. Kill the kiddi didlers & rapists. Plain & simple justice.The world would be a safer place-for decent people anyways.
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Old January 9th, 2008, 17:46   #119
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why not??? you got to be stupid to pull a stunt like B&E or you must have a high tolerance for pain, for me I rather see punks get the cane and an education rather than them getting to spend time in jail lifting weights and having time to blame everyone but themselves at my expense

Lol, I had tried to post it under the other comment, but you beat me to it. Then I was too lazy to quote what I was agreeing with.
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Old January 9th, 2008, 18:09   #120
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Glad to hear things turned out ok.
No one wanted some kids getting shot by police mistaking a PTW for the real thing.
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