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Old December 24th, 2007, 00:58   #1
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What's the differences? :O

So.. I think I'm gonna be smart and spend some money for once..

Rather than buying a whole new gun.. I'll make a custom one! I'll probably look back at myself and say.. Wow. You're a dumbass.. Shoulda just boughten a CA or something quality like that.

Anyways.. I figured I'd do a little project. I want to make an M4.

To start off, I'll probably buy a Metal Receiver (Or midsection), a nice "Crane" stock, reinforced metal barrel, tightbore inner barrel, and just get some nice wiring wherever.

The question is : What's the differences between "Version 1, 2, or 3" mechboxes? Just strength? Reliability? Accessability? All of the above? :O

I'd like to get the best stuff.. So I'm guessing Version 3 would be what I'm looking for.. But is it REALLY worth it?
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Old December 24th, 2007, 01:06   #2
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If you're asking those questions, DO NOT, I repeat, DO NOT attempt to build from scratch.

It takes more than just saying "I think I'll do it" to be able to do it.

I owned and worked on 3 guns before building a gun, and even then, certain aspects were difficult. There is filing, drilling, and dremmeling involved, and you could very easily mess up your body or mechanisms if you do not know what you are doing.

You have to know exactly what components you need, where everything goes, and which components are better to use than others.

My advice, and probably that of anyone else who has had experience working on guns, is to get a decent gun, and find someone to help you learn about the mechanics, customize the gun, and then maybe for your next gun, you can DIY.
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Old December 24th, 2007, 01:10   #3
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I kinda know how the mechanics work.. o_O

I know how to wire and do all the side work such as saudering.. And I know where all the parts go.. It's not very hard when it all fits accordingly.

You want to answer my question or just assume I can't do it myself?
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Old December 24th, 2007, 01:23   #4
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That is the point that I was making, thank you Endymion.

If you don't even know which mechbox goes into an M4, how are you supposed to competently build one with the rest of the proper components?
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Old December 24th, 2007, 01:27   #5
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And if it's an M4 it's version 2, no choice.
You could spring for a Pro-win... But.. well, that takes skill to build.
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Old December 24th, 2007, 01:37   #6
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... There is filing, drilling, and dremmeling involved...
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It's not very hard when it all fits accordingly.
what part of filing, drilling and dremmeling don't you understand and I dare you to look at a full manual and say thats easy, I looked at the one for my AUG which has far less parts than an M4 and I almost fainted
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Old December 24th, 2007, 01:39   #7
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You could spring for a Pro-win... But.. well, that takes skill to build.
This guy clearly has l33t skills! He can "sauder"
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Old December 24th, 2007, 01:47   #8
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Man, just buy a G&P M4.
To put it simply, when you don't like your CA or TM stuff, you upgrade to G&P. They have some of the best performing stock internals too.
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Old December 24th, 2007, 02:54   #9
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I'll probably look back at myself and say.. Wow. You're a dumbass.. Shoulda just boughten a CA or something quality like that.
You said it, man.

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Old December 24th, 2007, 02:57   #10
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... if it all fit accordingly...

I think you don't know what it is to mess in a gun...

When working in complete guns, most of the time all stock, there is some fitment and adjustments to do. It NEVER, I have to press it NEVER fits accordingly...

Now YOU want to take random parts from various manufacturer and hope that it all goes in in one shot??? You are dreaming. Just get any M4 with a RIS or RAS mounted on it (get age verif, there is at least 20 on sale right now... PTW fever) and add EXTERNAL accessories to it. It will already be a good start.
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Old December 24th, 2007, 03:15   #11
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G&P makes a whole wackload of M4 accessories anyway, just stick with them lol
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Ive owned a whole wack of guns. I assembled one of mine from scratch. complete scracth with the aid of Thundercactus. Im very proud of the gun, but im never going to do it again. The amount of work and such for that thing, even for experienced airsofters, was ridiculous. had we not had access to the machining equipment TA did... it never would have worked.

No one here is saying Dont Do it. We re just saying Dont Do it YET. youre not ready for it.
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Old December 24th, 2007, 08:15   #13
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As someone who's assembled several AR variants from scratch, I'll say don't try it unless you:

1) Really know what you're doing;
2) Are willing to put in a lot of time and effort, including having to dremel the crap out of stuff, and;
3) Have really deep pockets, because it's most likely going to cost you more than buying an off-the-shelf AEG that's ready to go: right now you're looking at the receiver and fore end and stock and going "that won't be so bad" but then you'll find yourself missing little bits and pieces here and there, or having one part that isn't compatible with another (see #1) and you have to start hunting down and ordering all that stuff and it adds up.

Yes, you can cut corners. You can fudge stuff. But then you'll just have paid as much as you would have for a good gun, just to end up with a sub-par gun.

I do it because I love doing it. But it eats up a lot of time, money and effort.
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Old December 24th, 2007, 10:42   #14
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The question is : What's the differences between "Version 1, 2, or 3" mechboxes? Just strength? Reliability? Accessability? All of the above? :O

I'd like to get the best stuff.. So I'm guessing Version 3 would be what I'm looking for.. But is it REALLY worth it?
If you have to ask that, you have no business trying to assemble an AEG.
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Old December 24th, 2007, 11:04   #15
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So.. I think I'm gonna be smart and spend some money for once..

Rather than buying a whole new gun.. I'll make a custom one! I'll probably look back at myself and say.. Wow. You're a dumbass.. Shoulda just boughten a CA or something quality like that.

Anyways.. I figured I'd do a little project. I want to make an M4.

To start off, I'll probably buy a Metal Receiver (Or midsection), a nice "Crane" stock, reinforced metal barrel, tightbore inner barrel, and just get some nice wiring wherever.

The question is : What's the differences between "Version 1, 2, or 3" mechboxes? Just strength? Reliability? Accessability? All of the above? :O

I'd like to get the best stuff.. So I'm guessing Version 3 would be what I'm looking for.. But is it REALLY worth it?
you are heading for a lot of trouble but I'd say do it.
It's only when you start with something too hard that you progress

Keep in mind this gun will probably cost a fortune and never work properly, and buy some stock AEG that you can game during that time, so that you can actually play a little bit

you should read a bit more though...
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