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Old December 18th, 2007, 23:13   #31
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Sure, no problem......I'll be bringing 'Dora'
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Old December 18th, 2007, 23:16   #32
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Old December 23rd, 2007, 16:38   #33
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looking at the TM spetz I think they were trying to sujjest a short version of the AK-47, which would have been called AK-47U, which most of us probably know does not exsist. The one that most of you keep pointing out is the AK-74U which indeed exsists, but looks quite diffrent from theTM spetz. I believe that the AK-74U is not the TM spetz, and therefore the TM spetz (exactly itsself) does not have a real-steel counter part. The spetz might be baised on the AK-74U but does not represent it. Especially the fact that the AK-47 and AK-74 used quite diffrent rounds, although I think there might have been a Bulgarian AK variant based on the AK-74U but used ak-47 rounds. However I remember it looked quite diffrent from any AK I have ever seen, especialy the TM spetz, I can also confidently say it was the ugliest looking AK varient I ever laid eyes on lol.
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Old December 23rd, 2007, 17:10   #34
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well...its pretty much just a krinkov.
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Old December 23rd, 2007, 17:41   #35
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Yugo M-92 7.62x39 Krinkov a.k.a Yugo M-92 krink
I believe is your closes bet
it shares the same parts as the TM AK Beta Spetsnaz
the sight on the top cover
same Flash Hider
same ammunition as the akm, ak47
and Front Sight Block & Gas Chamber Combo

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Old December 23rd, 2007, 17:58   #36
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Close, but missing the shortened handguards.
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what if it model after his?
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Old December 23rd, 2007, 18:26   #37
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Close, but missing the shortened handguards.
the key word used was "closes"

then you are looking at custom built pistol ak that not tactical military used ak
like this guy built
http://www.thompsonmachine.net/akpistol.htm



here is a other ones

this one is from a amd65


or if not then your stuck with Kalashnikov AKS-74U as ancorp and sleeping_bear mention with a different Caliber: 5,45x39 mm



now as a design point of view ... it doesn't make sense ... the point of the design to make a shorter akm version by shortening the barrel but it contradicted it`s self buy adding a full stock ( to add a battery )

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Old December 23rd, 2007, 19:07   #38
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One thing most people don't notice is the fact that the TM Beta uses a milled AK-47 Type III receiver, but all those Krinks and pistols use stamped receivers, as on AKMs and later.

And about the full stock and short barrel - I agree 100%, thus Jing Gong made a clone with an AKS folding stock. Hell, the first TM spetsnaz had no stock at all, and a place to attach an AKS folding stock. As some of you may know it was called the Alpha Spetsnaz, not the Beta.
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Old December 23rd, 2007, 19:15   #39
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I think some people use it but not even the Spetsnaz...I maybe wrong but why are they taking this name if they dont even use it ?
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Old December 23rd, 2007, 21:46   #40
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One thing most people don't notice is the fact that the TM Beta uses a milled AK-47 Type III receiver, but all those Krinks and pistols use stamped receivers, as on AKMs and later
Not to mention that it still has a full length front trunnion, which looks... well, off.

As for the Spetsnaz name, it's to sell the gun. Duh :P
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Old December 23rd, 2007, 22:13   #41
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Not to mention that it still has a full length front trunnion, which looks... well, off.

As for the Spetsnaz name, it's to sell the gun. Duh :P
same reason 1980 tehy did 20 version of He-MAn
the original



to make money

and as for the milled AK-47 Type III receiver, stamped receivers, as on AKMs

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Old December 23rd, 2007, 22:19   #42
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i do believe its a ak74u
Ak 74u has a right side folding stock, the skinny tube stock, dont ask what kind of description that is, but thats an AK74u
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