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Old November 28th, 2007, 23:19   #46
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PM me when you have brand new AEG's legally in country.

I will buy something from you.
1. he can t sale airsoft legally!!

Lending or Borrowing Replica Firearms
You cannot sell or give a replica firearm to an individual or to an unlicensed business. However, you can lend a replica firearm to:

a person who borrows it specifically to fulfill their duties or employment in a motion picture, television, video or theatrical or publishing activities; or
a certified instructor who wants to use it to teach the Canadian Firearms Safety Course or the Canadian Restricted Firearm Safety Course.


2. You can t buy legally an airsoft gun!!

Possessing or Acquiring Replica Firearms
As an individual, you may keep any replicas that you owned on December 1, 1998. You do not need a licence to possess a replica firearm and it does not have to be registered. However, you cannot acquire, make or import a replica firearm. If you take a replica firearm out of Canada, you cannot bring it back in.


3. OUPSSS! here the source!!

Here is some information on how the Firearms Act and Criminal Code apply to replica firearms.


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Old November 29th, 2007, 00:06   #47
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Well, it's a nice idea, opening another airsoft store in Canada, kudos for thinking about it, but I highly doubt a 19 year old will pull this off. Forgive me for being sceptical, if you do pull it off, congrats, I'll buy a few from you, but I really don't see this going anywhere but to the trash.
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Old November 29th, 2007, 00:34   #48
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I still think airsoft is in a gray area. It's between replicas and realistic looking airguns.
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Old November 29th, 2007, 00:41   #49
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dose any one know any airsoft companies here in Canada who sells wholesale im wanting to start up a airsoft/military surplus shop
To answer your question specifically there are no airsoft companies in Canada who do wholesale, all airsoft is manufactured in China/Japan/Taiwan and they are all aware of the legality of airsoft in Canada.

If you can pull up the permits to start bringing in the goods internationally the only wall you'll have to jump is finding a way to 'legally' transfer them to the general airsoft public.

Also, it'd be safer to operate an online store plus it'd be alot less of a hassle, with a store you'd need to have security features to ensure safe storage of these 'replicas'
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Old November 29th, 2007, 11:20   #50
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I still think airsoft is in a gray area. It's between replicas and realistic looking airguns.
NO GRAY ZONE!!

The importation of goods of tariff item No. 9897.00.00, 9898.00.00 or 9899.00.00 is prohibited.
L’importation des marchandises des nos tarifaires 9897.00.00, 9898.00.00 ou 9899.00.00 est interdite.



5. Tariff item No. 9898.00.00 reads as follows:

Firearms, prohibited weapons, restricted weapons, prohibited devices, prohibited ammunition and components or parts designed exclusively for use in the manufacture of or assembly into automatic firearms, in this tariff item referred to as prohibited goods . . . .

For the purposes of this tariff item,

. . .

(b) “automatic firearm”, “licence”, “prohibited ammunition”, “prohibited device”, “prohibited firearm”, prohibited weapon, restricted firearm and “restricted weapon” have the same meanings as in subsection 84(1) of the Criminal Code . . . .

6. Subsection 84(1) of the Criminal Code5 provides that a “prohibited device” includes, among other things, a replica firearm, which is defined as follows:

“replica firearm” means any device that is designed or intended to exactly resemble, or to resemble with near precision, a firearm, and that itself is not a firearm, but does not include any such device that is designed or intended to exactly resemble, or to resemble with near precision, an antique firearm;
« réplique » Tout objet, qui n’est pas une arme à feu, conçu de façon à en avoir l’apparence exacte — ou à la reproduire le plus fidèlement possible — ou auquel on a voulu donner cette apparence. La présente définition exclut tout objet conçu de façon à avoir l’apparence exacte d’une arme à feu historique — ou à la reproduire le plus fidèlement possible — ou auquel on a voulu donner cette apparence.



7. Section 2 of the Criminal Code defines “firearm” as follows:

“firearm” means a barrelled weapon from which any shot, bullet or other projectile can be discharged and that is capable of causing serious bodily injury or death to a person, and includes any frame or receiver of such a barrelled weapon and anything that can be adapted for use as a firearm;
« arme à feu » Toute arme susceptible, grâce à un canon qui permet de tirer du plomb, des balles ou tout autre projectile, d’infliger des lésions corporelles graves ou la mort à une personne, y compris une carcasse ou une boîte de culasse d’une telle arme ainsi que toute chose pouvant être modifiée pour être utilisée comme telle.



8. Subsection 84(1) of the Criminal Code defines “antique firearm” as follows:

“antique firearm” means

(a) any firearm manufactured before 1898 that was not designed to discharge rim-fire or centre-fire ammunition and that has not been redesigned to discharge such ammunition, or

(b) any firearm that is prescribed to be an antique firearm.
« arme à feu historique » Toute arme à feu fabriquée avant 1898 qui n’a pas été conçue ni modifiée pour l’utilisation de munitions à percussion annulaire ou centrale ou toute arme à feu désignée comme telle par règlement.


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Old November 29th, 2007, 11:24   #51
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14. In order to determine whether the rifles in issue are properly classified under tariff item No. 9898.00.00, the Tribunal must determine if they meet the definition of “replica firearm” under subsection 84(1) of the Criminal Code. For the rifles in issue to meet this definition, each one must fulfil three conditions: (1) it must be designed or intended to exactly resemble, or to resemble with near precision, a firearm; (2) it must not itself be a firearm; and (3) it must not be designed or intended to exactly resemble, or to resemble with near precision, an antique firearm.
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Old November 29th, 2007, 11:33   #52
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A tribunal in Ontario, just this past summer, confirmed that airsoft were Replicas. That makes it a legal precedent.
The laws and restrictions about Replicas apply to airsoft. End of discussion.

Appeals can be made to the courts or the laws can be changed in Parliament, if you have the clout. I dont.
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Old November 29th, 2007, 11:49   #53
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A tribunal in Ontario, just this past summer, confirmed that airsoft were Replicas. That makes it a legal precedent.
The laws and restrictions about Replicas apply to airsoft. End of discussion.

Appeals can be made to the courts or the laws can be changed in Parliament, if you have the clout. I dont.
Which Tribunal was this? Link to posted rulings.
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Old November 29th, 2007, 13:31   #54
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It was the case that shut down a Toronto area retailer, I think. Probably buried in the General or Off topic old threads. I dont feel like digging for it.
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Old November 29th, 2007, 13:52   #55
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It was the case that shut down a Toronto area retailer, I think. Probably buried in the General or Off topic old threads. I dont feel like digging for it.
One of the reasons Vince (6mm imports) went out of business too, it wasn't just his wife wanting him to get a real job, he was sick of the pressure from the government too, last time I talked to him (which was a month or two before he shut down)
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Old November 29th, 2007, 15:26   #56
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One of the reasons Vince (6mm imports) went out of business too, it wasn't just his wife wanting him to get a real job, he was sick of the pressure from the government too, last time I talked to him (which was a month or two before he shut down)
Vince shut down due to personal problems and he was also getting no where his supplier since they (the supplier ) was also shut down.

But in any case if you can get through all the hoops and actually have product in ready to ship, I'm sure you'll have buyers from this site.
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Old November 29th, 2007, 15:54   #57
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9898.00.00 is written in such way that it could either include replica firearm as the current interpretation does or exclude all replica firearms from that classification. Right now, CBSA has no reason to re-classify replica firearm, since they're suppose to be illegal to acquire anyways and CITT dismisses all applications for re-classification.
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