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Old October 13th, 2007, 02:19   #16
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I don't think this is going to change anything in the replica world, though.
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Old October 13th, 2007, 02:24   #17
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And here's another reason to despise the cheap American airsoft guns that show up for 30 bucks on eBay. They end up here, and make it harder for the rest of us...
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Old October 13th, 2007, 02:28   #18
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There's another video (the one about the mom being arrested) where they say the rest of them are "bb guns that looked like real weapons"

The "hand grenades" he's talking about, too, are home-made.

The bit about the Nazi flag is BS, too. I don't support the view, but there's no law against it.

This is a witch hunt.
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Old October 13th, 2007, 02:48   #19
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at the very least he did point the finger back to the parents,,its about time someone did that publicly
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Old October 13th, 2007, 02:56   #20
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Lots of crap going on. If the family has money they will get a good lawyer and ether fight it and get money (then pay a lot of money) or this will be buried like the other XX cases.

Considering it happened in America, don't worry about it. It won't affect us in any ways *touches wood*.
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Old October 13th, 2007, 03:10   #21
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it better not affect us in any way
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Old October 13th, 2007, 03:12   #22
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Well, it's not so much about it affecting us as the way this is being treated.

They're laying out AIRSOFT GUNS for the media on a table in the D.A.'s office the way they do real weapons when they take down Hell's Angels, and trying to make it like he was some kind of mega terrorist. They KNOW this being in the media will shape the general public's opinion, because John Q. Public will just see "evil assault rifles" and will never know (or care) that they weren't real.

That's just setting the kid up for crucifixion, and that's not how an impartial legal system should be run.

There are real, serious crimes being committed out there, but instead this asswipe D.A. is trying to set up his career's opus magnum by inflating what is, at this point, little more than an alleged plot, with all sorts of quasi-trumped up charges and by vilifying this kid in the public eye.

Was this kid misguided and maybe doing some really boneheaded stuff? Sure. But trying to make him into some supervillain by displaying his massive arsenal of toy guns is just as retarded.
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Old October 13th, 2007, 03:43   #23
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Was this kid misguided and maybe doing some really boneheaded stuff? Sure. But trying to make him into some supervillain by displaying his massive arsenal of toy guns is just as retarded.
Agreed.

Well said, btw..
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Old October 13th, 2007, 03:46   #24
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Oh yeah but hey, WELCOME TO AMERICA!

But don't worry, if the family play their cards right, he will get a slap on the wrist and this will be buried in archives. Couple years from now it will pop back when he goes on a shooting rampage in a school/university, then a month after no one will even remember.

Go America... go America....
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Old October 13th, 2007, 04:32   #25
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"The weapons included a 9mm assault rifle that the teenager's mother had recently bought for him"

Ugh at stupid media/politicians. And double ugh at stupid mom.

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He forgot to use the word "satanist", and "Military Assault Weapon". However, he DID manage to remember : "Columbine", "Nazi", "Nazi flag", and " Rifle".

I love how the media uses "frightening", and intimidating words to provoke sensitivity, and fear.
He did use the words "assault rifle" which is the worst of the worst, according to the public.
And also used it incorrectly, but hey, they all do that.
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Old October 13th, 2007, 04:42   #26
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"The weapons included a 9mm assault rifle"

I just can't process this. I can't do it.
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Old October 13th, 2007, 05:10   #27
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Well while the kid's being made into a monster, lets just presume he was in the possession of a Russian AS Val or OC-14 in 9x39mm (same round as the Vintorez). That's the only thing I can think of that would qualify as a "9mm assault rifle."

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I figure it's most likely a CX4.
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Old October 13th, 2007, 05:21   #28
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i agree with the cx4 storm as the 9mm assault rifle
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Old October 13th, 2007, 09:35   #29
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Whoah, couldn't stand the video for more than 5 seconds, but from what I saw, the ''9mm assault rifle'' could be either an airsoft MP5 (I know, it's not even near to being a ''rifle'') or maybe a 9mm AR15 burried under all the other stuff on the table.
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Old October 13th, 2007, 09:56   #30
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as someone said theyre using 'scary' words like Assault and rifle for publicity.
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