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Old September 18th, 2007, 13:21   #16
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Wow, the lack of reading comprehension completely blows my mind...
Our education system blows.


Gryphon, I'm glad you got your stuff. It'd really blow if you lost a part like that. Especially at that price!

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Old September 18th, 2007, 13:50   #17
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Wow, the lack of reading comprehension completely blows my mind...
Oopsies. Just read the first post again.
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Old September 18th, 2007, 14:12   #18
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Oopsies. Just read the first post again.
Don't worry, I wasn't referring to you. lol. You were right.
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Old September 18th, 2007, 22:45   #19
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Just wonder:

So if the CBSA determines a restricted part of a firearm/airsoft gun as the part which holds the serial number (ie. The Lower Reciever in an M4 or the upper receiver in an MP5), is it alright to assume that ordering in full wood stocks for M14s are legal and if there is a problem, the same/similar argument could be used?


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Old September 18th, 2007, 22:56   #20
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Old September 18th, 2007, 22:56   #21
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Wood stocks aren't considered an integral part of any gun (being wood and not essential to the gun's ability to "fire"), so they're not really regulated in any way.
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Old February 23rd, 2008, 14:41   #22
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The point I'm trying to make here is that CBSA sometimes seizes parts because they aren't aware of what's allowed and what isn't. What's significant about my case is that the government ruled, in writing, that airsoft gun parts that would not be considered the controlled part of a firearm, are admissible as toy gun parts/accessories. This doesn't give everyone carte blanche on importation, though it could prove useful to those that have had other parts seized and need to make a similar case.

And no, not having a serial number on a lower receiver doesn't exclude it from being controlled. Whichever is the controlled part on the real gun is the controlled part on the airsoft gun. Therefore an AR-15 upper receiver is uncontrolled and admissible to Canada without restrictions.
Do you have a link to the ruling? Thanks in advance!
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Old February 23rd, 2008, 14:47   #23
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Had a feeling you were referring to this in your other thread.
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Old February 23rd, 2008, 15:11   #24
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Had a feeling you were referring to this in your other thread.
No no...im curious as to the ruling as it pertains specifically to airsoft parts...not guns...different issue!
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Old February 25th, 2008, 10:25   #26
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hmm, what blows me off is the fact you can they let you in with a MP5 reciever, as CFC stated MP5 and all of its variant are prohibited (that includes G3s as it's the same design) I guess it meant that you can pretty much get any rifle receiver eventually.
Does anyone know if the M4 RS handguard import from US to Canada require a PAL or not? like the KAC M4 RAS.
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hmm, what blows me off is the fact you can they let you in with a MP5 reciever, as CFC stated MP5 and all of its variant are prohibited (that includes G3s as it's the same design) I guess it meant that you can pretty much get any rifle receiver eventually.
Does anyone know if the M4 RS handguard import from US to Canada require a PAL or not? like the KAC M4 RAS.
Gryphon got the MP5 lower in because that's not the registerable portion of the gun. The lower receiver is not defined broadly as a controlled item. The defining point is where the serial number is located. In the case of the MP5 (and G3 series), it's actually on the upper receiver.\

And no, you cannot "get any rifle receiver eventually". The CBSA has guidelines they follow, and in Gryphon's case, they improperly seized the item. He got it back on this basis and this basis only.

You do not need a PAL to import a handguard. Whether the U.S allows the export is a totally different matter.
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