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Old August 30th, 2007, 19:07   #16
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yup only illegal when you the receiver decide to combine them then.
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Old August 30th, 2007, 19:20   #17
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That's what I mean. If I had a Star G36k (which I do, and am fondling right now..) , and they proved it was purchased after 1998 (a simple search will reveal it only came out in 2003 , or something like that), would they be able to shit on me?

I live in an apartment too (landies have been RS owners for 45 years. And one is a Greek Navy vet. so keeping them here isn't a problem), with windows everywhere. If someone saw me transporting my AK, or G36, to the living room (for inspection/maintenance) would I get burned? What if it was a RS firearm?
Possession of replica firearms is not illegal regardless of when it came out or when you got it.

It does not stipulate in the CC that replicas possesed before 1998 are legal and those after are not.

In 1998 replica firearms became proscribed... after that date it is essentially impossible for an individual to aquire one legally. So the possession of the object is legal... how it came into your possession is not.. as it must have been illegaly transfered... but unless someone was willing to testify as to the date time and place that the transfer took place... no one is going to charge you for "suspicion of the transfer of a prohibited device without proper licenses" unless there is a very good reason to do so

And... again... I say again... Airsoft guns are not defined in the code or its regulations as replicas.

Airsoft does not = replica... although if compaired in a side by side visual comparison I expect that almost all airsoft guns would meet the test of the definition of what a replica is

"an object that looks like a firearm but is itself not a firearm"

And you should NEVER walk around in your house with a firearm of any type that may be visible to passers by... that is a great way to have a visit from the ETF
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Old August 30th, 2007, 19:28   #18
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Hunh?
Lord of war, when Yuri (Cage) is trying to get helicopters from the Ukraine overseas, he just separates the guns from the helicopter and ships them separately, avoiding any illegalities!
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Old August 30th, 2007, 19:31   #19
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And you should NEVER walk around in your house with a firearm of any type that may be visible to passers by... that is a great way to have a visit from the ETF
You beat me to it.

It's not illegal or anything to walk around your house or your property with firearms and whatnot, it's just inadvisable. Basically, it's asking for the cops to come knocking at your door with a few questions of their own.

All it takes is one uninformed neighbor who sees you to sound the alarm.
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Old August 30th, 2007, 19:42   #20
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You beat me to it.

It's not illegal or anything to walk around your house or your property with firearms and whatnot, it's just inadvisable. Basically, it's asking for the cops to come knocking at your door with a few questions of their own.

All it takes is one uninformed neighbor who sees you to sound the alarm.
Ah that i didn't know. I'll be sure to close the blinds when i'm cleaning my gun then.

Here's another question, can cops/ETF enter my apartment? Or is it like in the US where they need a warrant or something like that to 'force' their way in?

Ok second question, if i let them in and tell them and show them (carefully, everyone relax) its an airsoft gun. What can they do? (Or most likely do?)
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Old August 30th, 2007, 19:49   #21
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i know im new here and people are probably gonna tell me im wrong and everything but i had a little chat with a guy from the customs you know so iwas curious so i asked if importing an airsoft guns is legal in canada and how do they judge if it pass the borders or not and he told me that as long as an orange tip is there well there should be no problems, i know one of my friend orders some jg from california and he received them( they ended up costing only 180$ each in can$)








and seriously orange tip is not that bad when you have dark paint
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Old August 30th, 2007, 20:05   #22
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Orange tips are a legality in the US not Canada and on the Customs website it states that even a clear gun can be seized as a replica, it all depends on the who is opening the parcel to verify the contents. Not all packages are search and that is how your friend probably got his, just luck.
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Old August 30th, 2007, 20:08   #23
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Possession of replica firearms is not illegal regardless of when it came out or when you got it.

It does not stipulate in the CC that replicas possesed before 1998 are legal and those after are not.

In 1998 replica firearms became proscribed... after that date it is essentially impossible for an individual to aquire one legally. So the possession of the object is legal... etc...
Thanks. That was all I needed to know
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Old August 30th, 2007, 21:28   #24
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Here's another question, can cops/ETF enter my apartment? Or is it like in the US where they need a warrant or something like that to 'force' their way in?

Ok second question, if i let them in and tell them and show them (carefully, everyone relax) its an airsoft gun. What can they do? (Or most likely do?)
A warrant would be required to enter your apartment. If somebody sees you fondling your gun (airsoft or Real Steel) and panics and calls the cops, technically I would argue that this is not grounds to enter your apartment without a warrant (unless you're pointing it unsafely - CC no no). Contrary to most city folks beliefs, people CAN own guns in this country. If I want to caress it gently in my house, I am legally allowed to do so.

This however doesn't guarantee that they won't come in with guns drawn, but it is my interpretation that this would be illegal on their parts.

On the other hand, if you decide to voluntarily let them come in and volunteer any information whatsoever, you deserve anything you get. I would personally never give them the opportunity to FIND charges.
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Old August 30th, 2007, 22:23   #25
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"They're not military helicopters!"

To inquiring minds, if you don't know where this is from, watch "Lord of War" now.
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Old August 30th, 2007, 23:10   #26
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You beat me to it.

It's not illegal or anything to walk around your house or your property with firearms and whatnot, it's just inadvisable. Basically, it's asking for the cops to come knocking at your door with a few questions of their own.

All it takes is one uninformed neighbor who sees you to sound the alarm.
This is True..... but doing so at your rural farmhouse.. and doing so in your lowrise appartment in the city of Toronto are 2 very different things.

In Toronto all it takes is someone to see you fondling your AK and call 911 reporting a "man with a machine gun" the cops will come.. with guns drawn and they will not wait for the paperwork...
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Old August 31st, 2007, 00:19   #27
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In Toronto all it takes is someone to see you fondling your AK and call 911 reporting a "man with a machine gun" the cops will come.. with guns drawn and they will not wait for the paperwork...
One very good interpretation of 'Knocking' on someone's door:

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Old August 31st, 2007, 00:22   #28
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One very good interpretation of 'Knocking' on someone's door:

Knock knock
who's there?
RCMP
RCMP wh-
*door explodes*
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Old August 31st, 2007, 00:28   #29
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Knock knock
who's there?
RCMP
RCMP wh-
*door explodes*

this made my day.
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Old August 31st, 2007, 01:58   #30
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I was looking through the FAQ on Redwolf airsoft and games across this:



How can a company legally do that?
There are two laws:

export laws
import laws.

Hong Kong customs/border agents allows the export of airsoft guns.

Canada customs/border agents DO NOT allow the IMPORT of airsoft guns.

YOU, as the IMPORTER hold all responsibility as far as the Canadian import officers are concerned. They don't give a rat's ass about the port of origin's export laws.

Even if it were 100% illegal for Redwolf to export pink sponges out of Hong Kong, as long as the products made it past the export officers, then the CBSA would allow the product in to the country.

"Smuggling" is the act of illegally bringing an item in to OR out of a country. As far as Redwolf is concerned, it's NOT illegal for them to export out of the country. But once it leaves Hong Kong territory, it is in the hands of international territory and free of laws. However, once it attempts entry in to Canada, it is then at the mercy of CANADIAN import laws, and the IMPORTER is the one responsible for control and declaration of the product.
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