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Old August 19th, 2007, 14:45   #31
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i'm pretty sure there are only like 3 or 4 guns in airsoft that have 3 round burst, all of which are fairly rare.
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Old August 19th, 2007, 17:12   #32
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Wouldn't you lose the 3 round burst option?
*EDIT - Unless the three round burst is not available for airsoft...
Nope. There is no three round burst option for airsoft MP5s (unless ofcourse you are very very very technically inclined). Only on the real steel MP5s you will find it, and that's why it's naming system is different than the airsoft one.

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i'm pretty sure there are only like 3 or 4 guns in airsoft that have 3 round burst, all of which are fairly rare.
I'm not sure rare is the right word. The Gas/Electric MP5K is rare, but that's because it is out of production.....pity.
There are a few guns with three round burst but only a couple with mechanical three round burst (TM Type 89s for example, and they can be aquired quite easily, as easy as any other AEG). The electrically controlled three round burst feature on some models (I don't know if they are still in production, if not then yes, they'd be rare too) is not really all to good and isnt worth paying extra for. It's known to be unreliable and inconsistant.
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Old August 19th, 2007, 19:41   #33
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If you have full auto you could just fire bursts anyways, no?
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Old August 19th, 2007, 19:55   #34
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If you have full auto you could just fire bursts anyways, no?
Exactly.
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Old August 19th, 2007, 20:07   #35
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The TM type89 3 round burst works perfectly, i would hardly call it unreliably.
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Old August 19th, 2007, 20:16   #36
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The TM type89 3 round burst works perfectly, i would hardly call it unreliably.
The electronic burst ones are unreliable, such as some of the SIG series by TM. The TM 89 on the other hand, has a mechanical one that should supposedly be quite reliable.
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The electronic burst ones are unreliable, such as some of the SIG series by TM. The TM 89 on the other hand, has a mechanical one that should supposedly be quite reliable.
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Old August 19th, 2007, 20:26   #38
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Oh i read your post all wrong and didnt depict the mechanical from electronic burst system. (nik)
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Old August 19th, 2007, 21:02   #39
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Just wait till Systema releases their MP5 PTW...
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Old August 19th, 2007, 21:21   #40
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Just wait till Systema releases their MP5 PTW...
That's what I have been fearing....I'd be compelled to drop more than two grand just to own one.....If it's not available in SD I might stand a chance of resistance....just barely though.....
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Old August 20th, 2007, 14:33   #41
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....I'd be compelled to drop more than two grand just to own one....
Holy shit!....

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Old August 20th, 2007, 14:53   #42
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Where did you hear about this MP5 PTW?

Nvm.


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Hi,

For what is worth, the latest story I've heard is that all tooling for the MP5 has already been done, but production of the gun was halted due to a fairly strange personal reason... Kumi (CEO of SYSTEMA) insisted that they want to use as much real-steel components as possible on the MP5, and one of the pet-piece is that she wanted to use real gun magazine shells for the PTW magazines. Currently, all PTW M4/M16 magazine shells are sourced from a real steel magazine manufacturer, imported to Japan, then modified. This is why PTW mags fit in real M16 perfectly. However, H&K apparently owns some sort of patent on the MP5 magazine and they are the only company that can manufacture the magazine shell. We contacted H&K and they actually are willing to supply the shell to us, but they want freaking U.S.$60 each!!! So, by the time its all said and done we are most likely looking at $150+ retail price per magazine. Nobody in their right mind would pay that much for a magazine!

Anyway, I asked them why not just make your own shell and I think its simply stubbornness that needs to wear off... pray and hope!

Anyway, another comment is that I definitely are not aware of any "financial trouble"... PTWs are selling great in the military market, but since I don't handle the government sales, I don't have the exact figure (such as how many thousand had been shipped to the U.S. military so far). Therefore I can't really say how big of a cash cow that is. But I do know that a while back a "competing upgrade parts manufacturer" (I do not want to name it) who is also based in Japan was spreading rumor of us going bankrupt. They also said they will be releasing "life time guarantee" gear sets that will take over the upgrade market by storm. So far I haven't seen neither of these claims happening yet...



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