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Old August 22nd, 2007, 17:45   #16
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OK still back to my original question.

How many field owners actually have insurance???
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Old August 22nd, 2007, 17:47   #17
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Every single PB field owner in Saskatchewan that Ive ever played PB or airsoft on, has insurance. It would be silly to operate such a business without the appropriate precautions.
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Old August 22nd, 2007, 18:04   #18
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So these fields pay 2000.00 per game??? Like i dont see how this works? And what type of insurance? basic liability or sports insurance? Also keep in mind i want to know about PRIVATE owners not full out businesses.

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Old August 22nd, 2007, 18:38   #19
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So these fields pay 2000.00 per game??? Like i dont see how this works? And what type of insurance? basic liability or sports insurance? Also keep in mind i want to know about PRIVATE owners not full out businesses.
Why don't you contact the field and ask?
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Old August 22nd, 2007, 18:45   #20
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Which field would that be then? I have checked throughout alberta and there doesnt seem to be any...This is why I am asking here.
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Old August 22nd, 2007, 18:48   #21
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Asking for direct legal advice on the internet is like ordering the veggie special at Carnivore's restaurant. http://www.africanmeccasafaris.com/k.../carnivore.asp

(great f'n restaurant by the way).

Drafting your own waiver is downright foolish, and that clause above would get you tossed out of law school if you handed it in. Electricty for electrians, plumbing for plumbers...don't play lawyer and expect it to not blow up in your face at some point.

Besides, despite what others may post, waivers are almost worthless. If you have to use one, and are too stupid/bitter/poor/unmotivated/cocky/unwise/reckless to have a lawyer draft you one, you should get one from your insurer or use one that has been drafted by a lawyer or insurer.

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PS- just because you warn someone about a hazard does not mean they cannot sue you because they fall prey to it. As I think I posted elsewhere go read the Occupier's Liability Act (if you are in Ontario) and the cases on volenti, get a basic grasp on contra proferentem and then we can discuss why waivers are just peices of paper. Also read Malcolm and Waldick from the SCC, and then think about how that applies to Airsoft. Seriously.
I wasn't actually asking for official legal advice, and I'm not writing my own waiver. I saw your example and was merely asking if a similar statement would have given any sort of protection to the land-owner in the case of falling in a hole. But you pretty much answered my question... I think
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Old August 22nd, 2007, 18:54   #22
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So these fields pay 2000.00 per game??? Like i dont see how this works? And what type of insurance? basic liability or sports insurance? Also keep in mind i want to know about PRIVATE owners not full out businesses.
Owners of said field, go through a their insurance brokers who intern give them a quote based on many variables. As it stands, that 2000 dollar example is something they would have to pay a year to keep coverage of insurance on their field. They can pay that as a one time lump sum or pay it through out the year on eqaulized payments.
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Old August 22nd, 2007, 19:04   #23
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Well if thats the case then its reasonable. My quote was 2000.00 PER GAME! Maybe i missunderstood that.
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Old August 22nd, 2007, 20:27   #24
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Well if thats the case then its reasonable. My quote was 2000.00 PER GAME! Maybe i missunderstood that.
Single day insurance rates are generally quite high, it likely wouldnt be 365x2000 for a year of insurance
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