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Old August 2nd, 2007, 19:20   #1
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Medic rules

AT FTF we have been playing with a suite of Medic/ Wounding rules based on the "In Country" rules.

One of the issues we have had is with the evacuation of casualites from the fight. In many cases it seems the Casualites are returned to the frey a little too quickly. So I wanted to figure out some way to make the effect of dealing with casualites more in line with the intent of the rules.

I have seen and heard of the use of bandages in wounding rules..

Below I have written some amended rules using a combination of "In Country" rules combined with bandage rules coupled with moveable but stationary "Aid Station"

I think that these rules will result in the desired effects of casualties, in that due to the casualty having to be taken to an established fixed point we will no longer have issues with " near instant healing"

In addition this will require units to co ordinate the establishement and security of a rear area aid station.

Any comments on these Rules are welcome.



MEDIC RULES / DEATH RULES

The medic rules are designed to create a realistic situation in regards to wounded/dead players and also to force the commander to make a decision whether or not to disengage from combat based on the strength of his unit. This system allows all the players to remain together at all times and ensures there are no players walking to and from spawn areas.

Aid Station:
Each team will be issued with a Medic Kit containing a 10'x10' tarp and a box with a set number of bandages. The aid station is moveable but not mobile in that it must be established by spreading out the tarp and placing the box in the center. Once established the aid station can be used to heal casualties in the following way.

1st hit. the casualtiy must be evacuated to the aid station by 1 person. once there a bandage must be tied onto the arm of the wounded person, wounded people can not tie on their own bandage, only a healthy or healed person can do so. Once "treated" the "walking wounded" can return to the fight.

2nd hit. the casualty must be evacuated to the aid station by 2 people. Once there the bandage must be removed and replaced in the medic kit. Once Treated the casualty is "fully healed" and may return to the fight.

If the medic Kit is captured then casualties must follow the self respawning rules below.

If the supply of bandages runs out casualties will die at the aid station and must respawn.

**First Hit**
Upon your first hit (weapon hits do not count but remember gun hit is gun down, to "get an new gun" you must return to your ammo dump.), you are 'wounded'. The result of this hit is you must cease fire, stay motionless, and call for a medic. You may not return to fighting unless a fellow team member approaches you, and evacuates you from the fighting taking you to a rear area away from the fighting. Your team member must remain in physical contact with you while you move. You can not move on your own. Once evacuated you Mist be taken to the "Aid Station" where you will be revived and fully able to fight and can return to the fray. You are now at "hit once status"

**Second Hit**
Any additional hits from enemy fire after you're healed from your first, you are designated a 'serious casualty'. The result of this is that you must cease fire, stay motionless, and call for a medic. When a team mate arrives, you are required to inform them of your status.

The only way to be healed after becoming a 'serious casualty' is to be evacuated from the combat area with 2 people accompanying you. Both people accompanying you must be in physical contact with you. if physical contact is broken you must stop moving. Once your unit has broken contact and evacuated to an Aid Station you are considered healed. You may now act as though you have never been shot (ie you go back to 'first hit').

**If No One Comes To Save You**
With either your first, or second hit, you are to call for a medic. However. If a medic does not arrive within a reasonable amount of time you may begin to attempt your own respawn. To do this you must follow the directions below.

1) Once you decide to attempt this, you must stop calling for a medic. You are assumed to have died from your wounds while waiting.
2) You are to remain motionless the entire time. During this time you may find yourself searched by the enemy. You are to offer no resistence. You are dead after all.
3) You are to listen to the sounds of combat around you. Once gunfire has STOPPED, you are to begin a 5 minute countdown. If fire resumes within this time, even if it is a single shot, you must restart the countdown.
4) If the time elapses without any gunfire, you may stand up with your weapon over your head, and then attempt to rejoin your group.You respawn when you report directly to your commander If an enemy is approaching to search you and the time runs out, allow them to search you anyway.
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Old August 2nd, 2007, 19:35   #2
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Looks good, good write up, However the first hit rule normaly used by IC is that once you are hit for the first time, you can be healed by a deignated medic or another live player on your team and remain in battle till your second hit. Thats when the evac procedure would come into play.

Just my thoughts and experience with what works, tweeking it to evac every time would really slow the game down, but if its a long term milsim, it might be best.
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Looks good, good write up, However the first hit rule normaly used by IC is that once you are hit for the first time, you can be healed by a deignated medic or another live player on your team and remain in battle till your second hit. Thats when the evac procedure would come into play.

Just my thoughts and experience with what works, tweeking it to evac every time would really slow the game down, but if its a long term milsim, it might be best.
Yes, true.... but at FTF our games are typically 6 hour long milsim games with no stop in the action...
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Old August 2nd, 2007, 20:22   #4
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Medic

This is what I was thinking for a game.

Medic Rules
1- All medics must wear medic arm band at all time.
2- If player is hit with less than 3 BB he is injured and must lie on ground and not move for approx 5 min before he is considered dead.
3 - If player is hit with more than 4 BB players is considered dead and must return to respawn area. Common sense applies.
4- Injured players must call out loud for medics.
5-Medics must touch injured player for 15 seconds and count out loud before injured player can return to game.
5-Medics can only carry handguns.
6-Medics can kill enemy soldiers that are injured by touching them for 15 seconds and counting out loud.
7-Medical rules will be supplied to all players and medics in a laminated form by me.
8- Snipers wearing Ghillie suits cannot be healed by medics.
9- Snipers not wearing Ghillie suit can be healed by medics.
10-Any cheating will result in immediate removal from game.
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I plan to use RED kill flags for my future games, no matter what terrain, you can see the red material with no problem to signal a hit, or walking dead.
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QP3 was an introduction of red rags for me. Takes all of the guess work and secondary hits out of it. Only problem with red rags especially with the casualish games around toronto is few ppl actually carry them
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QP3 was an introduction of red rags for me. Takes all of the guess work and secondary hits out of it. Only problem with red rags especially with the casualish games around toronto is few ppl actually carry them
Exacltly, its what the Quebec guys use, and its brilliant. Which is why we need to start implementing them among our games. It will save plenty of bitch fits down the line.
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I agree, Medics do rule!!! I love running... I love healing...

In Country rules are pretty sound and use red rags to tell when people are hit
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Old August 3rd, 2007, 00:17   #9
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My plan was

to not have a "medic" person... but to have a Medic "place"
Anyone can apply the first aid ( other than the injured party) but this means that at least 2 people must withdraw from the fight to deal with a casualty.. and in some cases 3 people.

It also means that the Aid station must be frequently relocated either to keep up with the fight or withdraw it from danger... It adds another "logistical" element to the operation.

I agree that Red flags to signify "dead" is a good idea and should be implemented in general.
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