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Old August 2nd, 2007, 12:02   #46
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The people making these pyrotechnic devices are not idiots. They know the law, and they also know EXACTLY what they are doing. For those of us who go out to games, its always more fun with the pyro involved. I agree 100% with Kamradschaft in that those who chairsoft have no right to be buzzkills for those of us who use our AEG's for their intended purpose.
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Old August 2nd, 2007, 15:09   #47
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Wow, another chairsofter with an opinion. Then again its ASC where actual players are minorities.

OMG.. carboard shrapnel!!! Also, we dont use firecrackers. They're airbursts with reduced power (50%) wrapped in corn and construction paper and cardboard.

And I dont have an agenda against chairsofters; I only hate those with opinions.
... Lol

Please point out where I put in my OPINION anywhere there?

I put what I have been told by a LICENSED Pyrotechnic...

What you're doing here is taking apart fireworks (Illegal), Putting their "Charge" into another object (Illegal), and using them as a fragmentation device (Even though it's cardboard, all this is illegal if it's constructed by some one who's unlicensed to do this professionally)

... Anyone see any opinions yet?

(Here's some)

Just because you're being challenged and you really have nothing to prove you're correct you simply hide behind the whole "Chairsoft" thing. Good job, I believe the whole "Take your head out of your ass" thing has been covered already.

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We all know the laws in Canada thank you. Theres really no reason for you to have to point out the obvious.

I think Koopas point is that if you dont play airsoft theres no reason for you to come in here and tell us if we should or shouldnt be using these at our games. Perhaps you might want to fight for the law a little closer to your home. Like stand on your street and yell at people who dont use the pedestrian crosswalks. Because J walking is illegal.
... J Walking is a bit different then making improvised explosives (Cardboard or not)

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Old August 2nd, 2007, 15:19   #48
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Old August 2nd, 2007, 15:28   #49
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Has KS ever had anyone AT AN AIRSOFT GAME complain about their grenades and voiced concern for their own safety? I highly doubt it. If so they should stay away from milsims. I love games with pyro and your grenades were pretty sweet at qp3. Keep em coming and ignore comments from Amos and Vipachump who have likely never even been to a game with pyro. Go away.
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Old August 2nd, 2007, 15:31   #50
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Lol internet.

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Old August 2nd, 2007, 15:33   #51
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Keep 'em coming.

I found this a few days ago...

http://www.airsoftretreat.com/oldfor...TOPIC_ID=92567
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Old August 2nd, 2007, 15:43   #52
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That's pretty cool

The only issue with mechanical or gas powered grenades is that you usually have to pick up some pieces after you throw it... It would suck to not be able to find the grenade or a piece of it.
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Old August 2nd, 2007, 15:46   #53
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That's pretty cool

The only issue with mechanical or gas powered grenades is that you usually have to pick up some pieces after you throw it... It would suck to not be able to find the grenade or a piece of it.
If you scroll down the page there is a video. All the stuff looks to keep together pretty good.
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Old August 2nd, 2007, 15:47   #54
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That's pretty cool

The only issue with mechanical or gas powered grenades is that you usually have to pick up some pieces after you throw it... It would suck to not be able to find the grenade or a piece of it.
I've actually designed a grenade (I'll admit not as cool as the Pyro ones, but atleast it's legal) that works off of Compression from the AI propane adaptors and just propane or any other compressed gas... Still trying to see how I can make it for almost 0 cost.. Only thing stopping me is the valves.

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Holy crap.. That's like my gas idea.. Only cheaper.. And you don't have to carry the gas around! Excellent. Looks like my team will be outfitted with grenades next CQB season.

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Old August 2nd, 2007, 15:49   #55
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I figure it would always cost something, but if the design is sound and it's not a pain in the ass to re-use, then i'm sure a lot of folks would be interested
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I figure it would always cost something, but if the design is sound and it's not a pain in the ass to re-use, then i'm sure a lot of folks would be interested
For the XT league this winter I'm gonna be outfitting everyone with low-cost, slightly disposable grenades!
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Old August 2nd, 2007, 16:22   #57
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... Lol

Please point out where I put in my OPINION anywhere there?

I put what I have been told by a LICENSED Pyrotechnic...

What you're doing here is taking apart fireworks (Illegal), Putting their "Charge" into another object (Illegal), and using them as a fragmentation device (Even though it's cardboard, all this is illegal if it's constructed by some one who's unlicensed to do this professionally)
Again, re-read my post. Airbursts are actual fireworks. We arent taking apart fireworks (only removing some of the powder from the unit and dumping it down the toilet) or transfering the charge. They are simply wrapped in BBs and cardboard.

This is the at least the second time (it was something about Poncho before) where you have stated your useless, noob, underaged opinion (yes, you assumed we we're using firecrackers; in addition, legalities are also expert's opinions). You're probably one of those people who scold people for ordering guns from abroad cause of what you've read and believe.

You got a problem with the thread, report it.
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Old August 2nd, 2007, 16:29   #58
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Again, re-read my post. Airbursts are actual fireworks. We arent taking apart fireworks (only removing some of the powder from the unit and dumping it down the toilet) or transfering the charge. They are simply wrapped in BBs and cardboard.
This is the at least the second time (it was something about Poncho before) where you have state your useless opinion (yes, you assumed we we're using firecrackers; in addition, legalities are also expert's opinions)
I haven't seen a firework you could remove powder from without significant cutting / drilling or removal of parts but even removing powder can be construed as modification, thus making this illegal.

It's not opinion that modifying fireworks is illegal, it's law.
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Old August 2nd, 2007, 17:05   #59
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I can see why now that this cant be discussed in an open public forum. Theres always going to be those 3 or 4 guys that are just going to keep repeating that this is illegal. Sadly these are mostly comprised of people who dont even play airsoft. They might be interested in the idea of playing airsoft. Maybe even own a gun or two but have no plans on playing the game. Then they come into all the game threads give their advice and opinions on what should and shouldnt go on at a game.

Kind of like one of the WW2 game threads that had pictures of players (reenactors) who wore SS uniforms and swastikas. People who knew nothing about reenacting turned the game thread into a debate on what players should and shouldnt be wearing at a reenactment of a historical battle.

And if the subject comes up again in 5 or 6 months from now these people will be replaced with the new crowd of noobs who feel the need to berate us with the fact that this is illegal.

So unfortunately we could never have a constructive conversation on the topic.
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Agree with you Rick, its unfortunate this thread topic went this way as pyro just adds realism to the game. If you dont like it? dont play the game that has it in it. But dont ruin the fun and enjoyment for the rest of us, they are aware of the risk, legality, ect of it as stated. Should be no need for any more arguing among us, youve made your point, let us get back on topic.
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