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Old April 23rd, 2007, 13:36   #16
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funny how switching those two words around can change the entire meaning of the sentance. Shows how closely some people read.

Like others said, it was a fair article. its not demonizing airsoft in anyway, just acknowledging its existance and how its sharing the same 'growwing pains' that paintball did back in the day.
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Old April 23rd, 2007, 13:38   #17
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Interestingly enough, tragic as this accident is I wonder if it could be used as evidence against the government's ruling that airsoft causes bodily injury at 407 fps and higher.
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Old April 23rd, 2007, 13:38   #18
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So first you say it's not the parent's responsibility, then you say you stopped playing paintball because parents weren't supervising their kids? Make up your mind, and please don't ever have children.
OMG, you can't read properly.

Please don't ever have children :P
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Old April 23rd, 2007, 13:46   #19
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Old April 23rd, 2007, 14:06   #20
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I actually read an article where somebody calculated the odds of that. Something like a billion monkeys would come up with one line, but the sun would go supernova long before it ever happened.
It's actually much worse than that. I read in Dawkins the Blind Watchmaker that to do something even close to that would require more the the age of the Universe to date and the likely age at its demise, by a few orders of magnitude.

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Old April 23rd, 2007, 14:07   #21
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So first you say it's not the parent's responsibility, then you say you stopped playing paintball because parents weren't supervising their kids? Make up your mind, and please don't ever have children.
Please learn to read
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Old April 23rd, 2007, 14:14   #22
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Man that has got to suck he will never drive a car he wont ever play airsoft again ....
as my parents allways said

its all fun and games until someone looses an eye
then its a fucking bloodsport

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Old April 23rd, 2007, 14:52   #23
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Here is the kicker

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"Talking with other opthalmologists in town, we've seen at least five of these injuries just since January, so it's definitely something prolific and the eye injuries are typically quite serious,"
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"These guns are dangerous and have to be used with extreme caution ... This type of injury from airsoft guns is something that has been concerning opthalmologists worldwide

Regina isn't a huge metropolis, maybe 1/4 of a million people, so it may be safe to assume that in bigger centers like Edmonton or Vancouver these cases have grown into the hundreds. What kind of impact are these cases going to have on the organized sport side of it is difficult if not impossible to say, but it is definitely a concern.

%100 parents fault IMO, I doubt they would have let the kids out of the house had they been using a Daisy or a Crossman gun, and yet some of the Crossman Airsoft guns using Co2 can fire at a pretty good velocity.
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Old April 23rd, 2007, 14:58   #24
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Don't know why but kids become retarded when you put an airsoft gun in their hands. Even there, it's all about maturity cause I already saw two 19 years old guy shooting themselves without goggles or any kind of protection...But my 10 years old cousin always wear his goggle before taking his gun. Clearsoft sales should be a lot more strict than it is now. The Canadian tire and wall-Mart of my town are not verifying the ages and It's not unusual to see 10 years old Kids buying clearsoft guns and saying: Wow I'll shoot my neighbor's car and cat with it! Of course the parents have to be more responsable of what their kids do with their clearsoft guns.
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Old April 23rd, 2007, 15:02   #25
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Interestingly enough, tragic as this accident is I wonder if it could be used as evidence against the government's ruling that airsoft causes bodily injury at 407 fps and higher.
No, because they would have to be measurable and repeatable results to have any scientific merit. They would argue that they could not guage temperature, wind, the BB weight (they didn't witness what precisely was used), the gun, distance to target, angle of incidence, etc., etc.. All they could say was "We didn't test it in our lab, so your results or opinions don't matter", and scientifically, they would be right.

The only way it would work would be to shoot one of the scientists in the eye in his lab during an experiment. How likely would that be to happen?
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Old April 23rd, 2007, 15:13   #26
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Dammit. Clearly I didn't have enough coffee this morning. My bad.
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Old April 23rd, 2007, 15:24   #27
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i hope this story gets lots of media attention on some levels since it is a good little bit if influence for the public out there to know that these are not kids toys. the other day i saw some jr. high aged kid with a 1911 springer (orange tipped and all) standing in a parking lot with a bunch of other kids shooting at a bird with it. the kid stuffed it in his belt and walked off... its the attitude on parents part that oh its sold at walmart its just a toy that needs to change. little johnny is not old enough at 10 or 12 or even 14 to really understand the dangers of an airsoft.
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Old April 23rd, 2007, 15:42   #28
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No, because they would have to be measurable and repeatable results to have any scientific merit. They would argue that they could not guage temperature, wind, the BB weight (they didn't witness what precisely was used), the gun, distance to target, angle of incidence, etc., etc.. All they could say was "We didn't test it in our lab, so your results or opinions don't matter", and scientifically, they would be right.

The only way it would work would be to shoot one of the scientists in the eye in his lab during an experiment. How likely would that be to happen?
Actually there are a number of standard values for the amount of energy that must be applied to certain body parts to cause injury used in the fields of Human Kinetics and Engineering. I just don't think anyone has done the work.

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Old April 23rd, 2007, 15:44   #29
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Old April 23rd, 2007, 15:48   #30
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10 to 1 says this was crapsoft from Canadian Tire or Walmart, but who knows.
Looking at the bb in the picture, I'd say you're right.

This could absolutely be leveraged against the various rulings. This is not theoretical damage, this is an actual injury, and, as Arnisdaor said, I'm willing to bet it was done with one of the uber-gutless guns too.
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