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Old April 22nd, 2007, 21:55   #61
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Yeah, please don't get me wrong here. I'm not trying to be a jerk or anything. I pointed out that both parties of the transaction made mistakes.

Mark's mistake was sending the wrong item, or rather advertising it as the wrong item.

Silent_lemon's mistake seems to have been waiting to get this resolved.

I can see your point, silent_lemon, about not checking the gun out until now since you wouldn't actually be using it til summer.

It just seems kind of odd though, to me anyways. I guess it's because when I buy something expensive, I do open it right away to make sure it's all OK. Be it airsoft or whatever. It's not like you couldn't use it all til summer either, so that's why I would say you're also responsible at this point.

You started this thread to get people's input, so there's mine. Take it or leave it.
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Old April 22nd, 2007, 22:46   #62
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so you've totally ruled out Tanaka as the source of this fault?
A&A checked the box, said PCS on it, He doesnt know what the heck a PCS is, he's never even used a gas pistol in the field. He's not gonna spend 20 minutes researching the subject and then check every gun to make sure, that's Tanaka's job. They make it, they do their quality control, A&A just brings it in to sell it.
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Old April 22nd, 2007, 22:58   #63
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Originally Posted by ThunderCactus View Post
so you've totally ruled out Tanaka as the source of this fault?
A&A checked the box, said PCS on it, He doesnt know what the heck a PCS is, he's never even used a gas pistol in the field. He's not gonna spend 20 minutes researching the subject and then check every gun to make sure, that's Tanaka's job. They make it, they do their quality control, A&A just brings it in to sell it.

When you order/buy something you should generally inspect it to make sure it fits your needs/requirements as soon as it gets into your hand. If anyone could just bring something back at any moment in time, retailers would be out of business from people just using it till it breaks and going back and saying "Its not what I got told it'd be!" And gets their money back?

If A&A labled it as to what they were informed it was, the fault goes back to the manufacture. If they miss labeled it, then yes there is some fault on A&A's bit here, and solves the problem by fixing the advertisement. However, on cost I personally think this would have stayed the same, unless it was miss labeled and priced by the manufacture, as the mark-up on the product would be from the price it was when A&A got it into stock.

A lot of this situation rests on Lemon's court, 3 months is far too long to expect the retailer to be able to do much for him. If they were good and really wanted to help him, I'd suggest what someone else has already here, help him by sourcing out the bolt that would have the PCS device in it and getting Lemon a "decent" deal on that bolt. But really, there's little excuse to say that he could not have gotten it tested with in a couple weeks to a month MAX of receiving the item. When I work on my guns, I'll dry fire it once or twice to make sure the mechanism is firing, then I head out to the local gaming field to test it and make sure BB's are going where they should.

Bottom line IMO: 3 months is WAY too long to turn around and say "You boned me man!" And then expect the retailer to bend over backwards for you.

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Old April 22nd, 2007, 23:07   #64
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Having read the whole thread to date, there is one quote which convinces me of fault, or rather, of who should be tasked with dealing with this mess.

Originally Posted by silent_lemon View Post
... BUT 2007 isnt 2002 for me, I dont have a copious airsoft wallet now, and thinking id get back into airsoft was a mistake;..
If money really IS the issue, (Which, according to silent_lemon, it is.) then why didn't he even test the gun?
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I hurredly slammed down 900 plus shipping
One grand is alot of money for a supposedly limited airsoft fund. I can understand that rich guy across the street not touching his new rifle because he owns 10 others, but the fact that apparantly NOTHING was done between purchase and now tells me silent_lemon is looking for special treatment.

I'm sorry, Lemon, but if it were up to me you'd have to settle for selling the gun for the non PCS price. A&A messed up but you didn't give Mark the chance to fix it.


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Old April 22nd, 2007, 23:15   #65
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Originally Posted by silent_lemon View Post
Well, history first. After reading everything and anything I could get my hands on regarding Tanaka's line of m700's, I decided to find a Tanaka m700 AICS PCS.
Originally Posted by silent_lemon View Post
So, i received it promptly, opened the box, cool, big green gun, content with my new m700 AICS PCS, I propped it up in a corner not 2 feet from the original box, and decided to relieve myself from the nearing 2 year airsoft hiatus when it gets warmer.

Well now it's nearing that time of the year, and I actually need to sell it - I'm in quite the bind, and could really use that 900 back. I packed it up, original papers still in the box, styrofoam included, never fired, (magazine doesnt even KNOW what a BB looks like...) So I put it up for sale advertising Tanaka M700 AICS PCS, for sale for the amount I paid for the gun, 900.

I agree with the statement that after 3 months of you doing nothing that its not Marks fault.

From read the above lines from your original post (yes I cut out some crap in between but it doesn't change what you type here). This tells me that you have researched this gun over and over, you did unpack and inspect the gun upon receipt of it but did not fire it. I don't know about the rest of you but when I take a virgin gun out of the box for the first time like mentioned about I play with it for a few moments till my hard on settles down. And considering how much research you've put into the gun you think you would notice what the other buyer notice instantly upon unpacking it just like you. Not only did you unpack it, but you left it unpacked for 3 months where you could see it everytime you went to bed, until you repacked it for sale (at which time most people would typically give it a once over to make sure nothing was missing).

I'm sorry but I agree with Mark on this one, in all that time, with all your reading and knowledge on the gun...... well damn chalk it up to experience check what you buy right away...... like I mean you buy a meatball sub from Subway, go home and throw it in the fridge and 3 days later go to eat it and finds out that its a Pizza sub with olives (OLIVES I SAY!!). They are not going to replace it.
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