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Old April 17th, 2007, 19:37   #31
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It seems,depending on the area you live in makes a difference on the fps,ie. there is a group here that want the fps limits of LMG(249's & so on!) too only shoot 350 fps while AR's,AK's &so on are allowed 400fps and Sniper units I belive was 460 fps with.20's.The LMG limit kinda doesent make any sence to me as they use the same gear box (ie.G&P anyway!).So seems to be the area you live in.Cheers!
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Old April 17th, 2007, 19:54   #32
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I figured i would just ask seeing as how it was already posted that he played in texas and i did post info so BOO YAA lol
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Old April 17th, 2007, 20:18   #33
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It seems,depending on the area you live in makes a difference on the fps,ie. there is a group here that want the fps limits of LMG(249's & so on!) too only shoot 350 fps while AR's,AK's &so on are allowed 400fps and Sniper units I belive was 460 fps with.20's.The LMG limit kinda doesent make any sence to me as they use the same gear box (ie.G&P anyway!).So seems to be the area you live in.Cheers!
the LMG limit was only brought in because there are people that bought the 249 just so they could get around our ammo restrictions and were using it irresponsibly and in an un-milsim like fashion. These people have the wrong mindset for the game and its pissing us all off. There's other reasons we wanted them deterred from MAA games, but I won't go into that.

I own 2 LMG's, my G&P 249 will need about 200$ worth of parts to downgrade it to a reliable gun at 350 fps, yet i'm a firm supporter of this new rule.
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i never understood why the oil refinery had a brothel... i never see them at the refineries i work at this is bull!

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Old April 19th, 2007, 23:07   #34
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Wow how do youuse an LMG irresposibly? Just woundering as it's a support weapon right? The operator still has too maneuver this monster witch is no easy task in it's self,leaving the operator as some what of a sitting duck lol.Just a question,why would you want to deter people from joining such a great Hobbie/sport?Should we not just be trying to have a goodtime and have some fun.Trying to deter individuals and not others seems like an elitist attitude and just take the fun out of the whole game leaving less members over all.Don't we all just want some fresh meat to shoot at lol.As far as rules in war,their are no rules in war lol! But thats just my opinion,Cheers!
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Old April 20th, 2007, 17:53   #35
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they have their own field they can play at, as well as other people they play with, they can have their own league.
They weren't using the gun for it's intended purpose, nor did they intend to, they only bought them to get around our ammo restrictions.
And like I said, there are other reasons they were deterred from us, but i won't go into that.
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Old April 20th, 2007, 20:27   #36
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Thats fair if thats what you belive,unless they told you direct that that was the reasone they bought it(thats different!).For me it's all for a goodtime,seeing this kind of stuff happing makes me what to get out of the Hobbie/sport(not going to happen thow lol!).Cheers!
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Old April 20th, 2007, 21:46   #37
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Ok, im kind of lost. If some people are trying to get around ammo restrictions i dont see how lowering the FPS to 350 for a certain type of gun is going to penalize someone. sounds like someone got hurt, and yeah it can happen, maybe 350-380 should be the limit for ALL guns?

I do believe there should be a limit on FPS so people dont get hurt in the sport. 350 ? 400? whatever the number is, as long as all guns are shooting the same no matter what kind of gun it is.

Why does a sniper gets to shoot 460? cause he only has 1 shot? he is the most covert guy on the field and usually with another set of eyes, he doesnt need to be shoot any harder.

If someone is camped out in a bunker or ditch someplace with a pile of ammo and a LMG i adjust my tactics and hopefully it makes me a better player. To me its about the challenge and more realistic.

Just my 2 cents..

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Old April 20th, 2007, 21:59   #38
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you missed the point lol
all this group of people wanted was to have a 399fps gun with a box mag, we lowered the limit to 350, now they dont play with us, problem solved.
They werent focusing on tactics at all, only to have more ammo than anyone else and just starve us out. Although this happens in real warfare, its not fun when it happens EVERY game. Not to mention with an LMG shooting 400fps, we would just wait for them to break down then assault.
and ive got two LMGs, you dont need to be shooting above 350 to do your part
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Old April 20th, 2007, 23:47   #39
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you missed the point lol
all this group of people wanted was to have a 399fps gun with a box mag, we lowered the limit to 350, now they dont play with us, problem solved.
They werent focusing on tactics at all, only to have more ammo than anyone else and just starve us out. Although this happens in real warfare, its not fun when it happens EVERY game. Not to mention with an LMG shooting 400fps, we would just wait for them to break down then assault.
and ive got two LMGs, you dont need to be shooting above 350 to do your part
An LMG shooting 399fps is a little high IMO. It makes sense for rifles that will only hit you maybe 3-5 times a burst, but for guns who's purpose is to hose ammo, I think it's excessive.
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Old April 21st, 2007, 00:01   #40
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Yes it may seem high,but it's no different than an AR or AK as your not going to get hit from every BB in that burst.What I meen is say you fire for one second and your units rof is 14 a sec. not all 14 rnd's are going to hit the target,maybe 4-5.As for it shooting 399,alot of stock G&P M-249s were shooting over the 400 mark.I lowered mine with a little bit of playing around with out replacing parts to 382 fps,yes the G&P's are hot and I know of guys with CA's shooting the same with some T.L.C lol. It's not that the guys with G&P's mod'ed them to that level,they were already there from the factory.Cheers!
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Old April 21st, 2007, 00:04   #41
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Mine's around 380-390. I do hose quite a bit, but it's to keep the opposition's head down while my teammates flank them.
I don't get the drop in FPS. If there's an ammo problem, just get more SAWs for your team.
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Old April 21st, 2007, 00:10   #42
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Don't know much bout Lmg's, but i can see what he's talking bout. Im new to Airsoft, but ran into similar situations with paint ball, having a team camp out with a Metric ton of ammo aint fun.
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Old April 21st, 2007, 00:21   #43
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Does that meen that if your not playing thoes you wish too exclude in a game there not at, the FPS goes back up to 400fps lol!
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Old April 21st, 2007, 02:12   #44
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Don't know much bout Lmg's, but i can see what he's talking bout. Im new to Airsoft, but ran into similar situations with paint ball, having a team camp out with a Metric ton of ammo aint fun.
Same applies for airsoft. The last game I played at Wasaga the other team was using all highcaps with 2 support weapons on an 8 man team. I know only 5 of the 6 of us on our team had a highcap, and I think the 5 of us only had 1 each. It really wasn't evenly matched. It was still fun, but got a little annoying at times when you came under fire from a SAW that could hose BBs at you for 5 minutes streight.
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Old April 21st, 2007, 02:43   #45
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I don't think the box on the Saw would have held ammo for a five min. spree,mine lasts for far less than a min. and mine only does 14 rnds a second lol,just fun'n with ya,Cheers!
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