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Old March 30th, 2007, 12:11   #1
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Biodegradable BB's

We are going to be hosting a game in a green area. Some of the terrain is wetland and protected as such. We are thinking of asking people to use biodegradable BB's that we can provide at cost. Is there a downside to these and is there a preferred brand?
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Old March 30th, 2007, 12:33   #2
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i looked into this and found this company down in the U.S. here is a link to what the bb's are all about.

http://www.airsofthawaii.org/ballistic/200505/ded.shtml

and the price of one bag
http://www.dedusa.com/products/NON-M...IOTECH/BBBIO01
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Old March 30th, 2007, 12:33   #3
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We are going to be hosting a game in a green area. Some of the terrain is wetland and protected as such. We are thinking of asking people to use biodegradable BB's that we can provide at cost. Is there a downside to these and is there a preferred brand?
I remember reading an article about 4 major brands of bio BBs, and how only1 brand was truely biodegradable (the rest were just BBs held together with biodegradable glue). I'll see if I can find the article again.

EDIT: Good old Arnie's http://arniesairsoft.co.uk/?filnavn=.../bio_tests.htm
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Old March 30th, 2007, 12:38   #4
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i looked into this and found this company down in the U.S. here is a link to what the bb's are all about.

http://www.airsofthawaii.org/ballistic/200505/ded.shtml

and the price of one bag
http://www.dedusa.com/products/NON-M...IOTECH/BBBIO01
Hey thanks for the info.

I have a supplier that is willing to send me Excel biodegradable for $10 canadain per bag.

I had never heard of them before and wanted to know if there is a downside or if one supplier is better then another.
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Old March 30th, 2007, 12:41   #5
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I remember reading an article about 4 major brands of bio BBs, and how only1 brand was truely biodegradable (the rest were just BBs held together with biodegradable glue). I'll see if I can find the article again.

EDIT: Good old Arnie's http://arniesairsoft.co.uk/?filnavn=.../bio_tests.htm

Hmmm I guess that says it all. I will look into them. If I can make it cost effective for people I am wondering if they would have a problem using them.

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Old March 30th, 2007, 12:42   #6
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when are you thinking of getting them? and what is your location
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Old March 30th, 2007, 12:44   #7
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when are you thinking of getting them? and what is your location

I'm in toronto, I'm going to be getting them this weekend if I can find a suitable brand. The excel are avaiable now. I will have to talk to my supplier about the other brands.
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Old March 30th, 2007, 12:47   #8
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well if you are getting the BIOTECH ones mabe see if others would like to do a group buy?
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Old March 30th, 2007, 12:49   #9
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well if you are getting the BIOTECH ones mabe see if others would like to do a group buy?

If time permitting I will.
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Old March 30th, 2007, 15:11   #10
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It depends, too, on what they consider a biodegradable standard. I've used Excels and I can tell you it takes one hell of a long time for them to degrade.

I doubt the BBs are considered toxic in the first place, but I could be very wrong about that.
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Old March 30th, 2007, 17:11   #11
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I've been testing one lot of Excel's Bio-BBs. After 5 months, there have been no visual signs of degradation. Quantitatively, they haven't changed at all (mass-wise). I'm still watching them. They've been placed in the 'elements' for the period of time.
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Old March 30th, 2007, 17:27   #12
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Additional info/reviews (sorry if either the posted is linked to this or vice versa, I'm not interested in "organic" BBs and didn't bother to check out the Arnie's link.)

http://www.airsoftmechanics.com/reviews.php?aid=15
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Old March 30th, 2007, 17:55   #13
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I've got a couple bags of bio-bbs for sale.
http://www.airsoftcanada.com/showthread.php?t=35448
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Old March 30th, 2007, 18:25   #14
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Cheers

Thanks for all the help. I spoke to the manufacturer and it makes such little difference that it isn't worth it. Just a marketing ploy. The difference in the degradation is minimal 5-6 month from standard BB's although they will tell you that there testing shows otherwise (the conditions were greatly in there favour and not at all similar to ours). The chemical make up is similar and not at all harmfull in the amounts we will be exposing the land to.

Thanks again.

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