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Old March 2nd, 2007, 03:17   #91
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Personally, I don't think anyone is "out to kill the sport", especially with clearsoft still being sold in retail chains; they're simply trying to enforce laws which are already on the books. The cops didn't make those laws, the Liberals did -- something to keep in mind next time you're at the ballot box, if you really are pissed off by what's going down.

But honestly, it doesn't really surprise me. Those of us who've been around long enough remember the late 90s, after C68 got passed, when the only retailers around were Tru, APEC and some other outfit I don't remember the name of (the guy's name was Leblanc I think...). Or used stuff on the [US-based] AirsoftZone dboard, if you could find a fellow Canadian selling stuff.

In the past few years, I've seen retailers multiply and prices drop considerably. If anything, post-C68 Canada seemed to have more airsoft flowing in than ever before. To help matters even more, we saw a huge rise in self-righteous newcomers who seemed to feel a constant urge to challenge the state of airsoft's legality, attempt to find new and clever ways to outsmart Customs to save a few dollars, and pull a few really bone-headed stunts to boot, insuring airsoft a big prominent spot on everyone's radar.

Everyone who joined up after 1998 knew straight-up airsoft was in grey area AT BEST; you knew the risks and you got in anyway and you even got your way for a while, but don't go and act all surprised and indignated now that it's turned around and threatened to bite you in the ass. Everyone who was here before you told you to lay low and not rock the boat, but apparently that's way too much to ask of some people.

PS. the PAL idea is great. I'm all for that.
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Old March 2nd, 2007, 09:18   #92
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Hmm, I bought my rifle from Kuramae and they were great. But the shop in pacific mall is just a front, all of the guns are kept in a warehouse, I'm guessing thats what the police raided. Would be quite a sight to see them bust through the doors of pacific mall, all geared up. Kelvin is a great guy and I wish him safe passage through any legal repercussions.

Now that airsoft is nearing extirpiration, would anyone like to buy my TM M14?
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Old March 2nd, 2007, 09:41   #93
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huh. a 15 year old with a TM M14 that lives in Berlin - that get's stuff at pacific mall? - something don't make sense here. -
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Old March 2nd, 2007, 09:44   #94
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huh. a 15 year old with a TM M14 that lives in Berlin - that get's stuff at pacific mall? - something don't make sense here. -
Humm !

Fishy but we all know that store was selling to underaged !, and also that a town in ontario was named berlin in the past and the town name change a while ago.

So you have your answer !

Why people keep posting only to post, even if this is wrong ?

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Old March 2nd, 2007, 09:48   #95
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lol it's quarter to nine in the morning, I have no work on my desk and little of nothing to do besides cruise here... read something 'fishy'- and felt compelled to question - never knew of a Berlin, Ont. Ya got me there (thanks).. - now this post is a post only to post... *must.stop.typing.* -
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Old March 2nd, 2007, 09:53   #96
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lol it's quarter to nine in the morning, I have no work on my desk and little of nothing to do besides cruise here... read something 'fishy'- and felt compelled to question - never knew of a Berlin, Ont. Ya got me there (thanks).. - now this post is a post only to post... *must.stop.typing.* -
At the beginning of WWI, Berlin, On. was renamed Kitchener.
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Old March 2nd, 2007, 10:13   #97
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Just out of curiosity, and I'd like an honest answer, if legislation changes turning an previously legal object into an illegal one, is there generally a "grace" period where previous owners can turn these objects in without fear of legal persecution?
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Old March 2nd, 2007, 10:39   #98
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Just out of curiosity, and I'd like an honest answer, if legislation changes turning an previously legal object into an illegal one, is there generally a "grace" period where previous owners can turn these objects in without fear of legal persecution?
To answer, yes there is. Usually it is a set date from when the legislation was confirmed.

Take the smoking ban in Toronto for example with restaurants. They had x-number of months to (at first) revamp their air filtration and HVAC systems so that they could have a designated "smoking room" and at a later point, the full ban completely.

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Old March 2nd, 2007, 11:11   #99
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Last night CTV Toronto News at 23:30 show a one minute report on what the police had shown to the public at a news conference. Here is what I saw on display at a long table, TM Type 89, TM M-4, ICS AK, at least four MP-5s, an M-249 possible from CA, and a number of GBBs of different kinds.
My biggest concern or my bottom line is that will the sport of airsofting survive in this country?
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Old March 2nd, 2007, 11:30   #100
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http://www.police.york.on.ca/Press/%...%20MARKHAM.pdf
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Old March 2nd, 2007, 11:35   #101
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So, any word on the outcome as per the PR (Press Release) held yesterday for that incident?

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Old March 2nd, 2007, 11:56   #102
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Guys, Handicapper was with his FATHER when he went to Kuramae.
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Old March 2nd, 2007, 12:04   #103
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Old March 2nd, 2007, 12:19   #104
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Thats the only thing that irks me.
Ya, you are right Droc... it too freaks me out, but everyone needs to keep in mind that these three guys were doing business illegally - so be it airsoft, automotive parts, CDs, DVDs or anything else... if you do something illegal, you must pay the price.

Stay sane and safe and the risk of this happening might be slim...

The same could be said with people who smoke pot (weed)... I personally know of a few that have an absurd amount with them at all times and yes it is illegal... but if you act cool and keep to yourselve, no one will bother. I am not justifying it or trying to start another discussion on here... just stating that as long as things are kept within the parameters, all is well.

DO ILLEGAL = PAY THE PRICE...

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Old March 2nd, 2007, 12:32   #105
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So, any word on the outcome as per the PR (Press Release) held yesterday for that incident?

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It's a media event, what outcome are you looking for? It's just a show for media to take pictures of what's confiscated, and details on the arrest, etc.
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