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Old January 27th, 2007, 18:48   #31
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Old January 27th, 2007, 19:08   #32
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Heh, I half expected a lame excuse like "I had to make a new account."


But I doubt they'd want to say that if this is the case... because then we'd be looking into why he/she was banned in the first place.


But, a guest? For 7 YEARS?! Nah, don't beleive it worth a damn. However if this is the case. I say you get me PROOF that it is. Someone in your area that has been on long enough to vouche for you to have 7 years here on this site.

And I don't want hear-say from you either.


Oh, and as far as this going that they monitor this stuff. Guess what, any of you non-believers just gotta watch the news where they point out how authorities are more and more looking into web forums in Canada to spot and stop crimes commited using internet communications and such.
In all fairness there are a lot of Ontario players (especially from the older crowd, or more local player groups) that don't bother with ASC, since almost everything ends up as a "My Pen Is mightier" contests.
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Old January 27th, 2007, 19:13   #33
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Debbie, I told you and everyone here the truth.

The Police Officer who watched and read this site is from the Joint Provincial Firearms task force (or whatever acronym they use today). They dont post, but they DO read.
Second fact; you can monitor a site and not have someone physically look at it. The new term for this is data-mining; programs that use key words (mostly) and statistical data, matched with excellent IP tracking. If you think the authorities are not equipped or too dumb to do this, you need a reality check.

If you think that anything you send out on the internet (or the phone) is safe from scrutiny, wow, how will you handle the truth?

Dont want my answers because you dont like me? Too bad. Educate yourself, remove those blinders, and maybe you'll learn something.

Oh, if you want proof, you'll have to show me proof of your security clearance first.
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Old January 27th, 2007, 19:21   #34
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I tried to post this a few hours ago, right after Debbie's last post, but then the site crapped out for me, so here it is now...


Well if you won't go into your reasons why you won't accept multiple accounts of people confirming their knowledge of law enforcement parusing this site, in addition to Greylocks having shown a law enforcement officer the site personally, as well as many of us being military, law enforcement, or legal-whatever in our real lives, then I don't know why we should bother.

As Droc said, you're not going to get a letter from CSIS themselves saying they watch the site, so really, it seems that unless you watch an OPP/RCMP/CSIS officer view the site yourself, you're not going buying it? Hardly rational, I would think.

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Old January 27th, 2007, 20:02   #35
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If you dont think this happens, you are painfully naive.
No shit, how can someone who comes on here -NOT- think that the police are watching?? Good lord, how stupid can a person be. Debbie, I hope you didn't mean that...
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Old January 27th, 2007, 20:02   #36
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I can show you proof of mine!
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Old January 27th, 2007, 20:33   #37
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No ones mentioned the dickwad that was arrested in Montreal last year, he was on here getting flamed for his stupidity and later on the news report about all his realsteel the news had ASC in the background with comments about how "teh intranet is watched"

I also find it amusing that some law enforcment joined some teams and after about a year left. But I'm a tinfoil hat wearer.
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Old January 27th, 2007, 20:58   #38
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In all fairness there are a lot of Ontario players (especially from the older crowd, or more local player groups) that don't bother with ASC, since almost everything ends up as a "My Pen Is mightier" contests.
That doesn't stop them out-right from having an account does it? I could see that stopping them from taking any part in threads and posting. But, I'd imagine that some of the "old-timers" would take advantage of some of the sales threads and so on.


Nah, saying you've been on as a guest for 7 years and having been reading constantly is horse shit. Proof of this is that he/she doesn't believe that there are people monitoring the forum. There are a few threads about it that have been on before, like the above mentioned Montreal guy ((I forget the name now... something666)) and others. Plus then add in the fact that 7 years of "reading" and "keeping up" he/she would have come across at LEAST one of the many people who are in the law enforcement and so on that are here all the time. I'm pretty sure if someone from the law enforcement end of things saw something highly illegal they'd report it, or recommend the very least what the parties involved should be doing.
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Old January 27th, 2007, 21:06   #39
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I've never seen her there.
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Old January 27th, 2007, 21:49   #40
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Debbie, you want proof? they show up in the ip logs. I'm not going to post the IPs of the various government agencies that view the site as the last thing we need is for some script kiddy getting it in his head to ddos them. In addition to that there have been members that have been contacted by the police etc about content of their posts.

And it's not just the police watching. Posts have been printed in the toronto star amongst other papers...

You have as much privacy on ASC as you do sitting in your car in traffic with your windows rolled down and talking to your friends through a bull horn. Between the people and computers that sift through the site theres systems out there that monitor the data as it travels over the ineternet - unencrypted. Trust me, ASC sets off alot of red flags for LEO agencies.
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Old January 27th, 2007, 23:53   #41
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Oh, if you want proof, you'll have to show me proof of your security clearance first.
Oh really.

I would like to remind you of this paragraph on the SECURITY SCREENING CERTIFICATE AND BRIEFING FORM that you signed when you receive your clearance:

If an individual fails to safeguard, releases without appropriate authority or uses information/assets for unauthorized purposes, such action may constitute a contravention of the Security of Information Act, the Access to Information Act, the Privacy Act or other Acts of Parliament, a breach of the Government Security Policy or the Oath of Secrecy. These provisions apply both during and after service to the Government of Canada.

I suggest you review the Security of Information Act before perusing any action(s) related to you quoted statement. Specifically Section 4.1.A.
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Old January 27th, 2007, 23:54   #42
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Lisa, you're not giving her the proof she wants. It wont work. You have to let that poor officer out of your basement...

Digital... I just looked at your profile and job claim. You do realize that I've been working for the Federal Government for longer than you've been alive, right?

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Old January 28th, 2007, 00:09   #43
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Then one would hope that you would be aware of the associated responsibilities that go along with possessing a security clearance and thus would not be so freely suggesting that you would make information available that apparently requires a security clearance. Regardless of weather or not the receiving individual has a clearance of sufficient level, the still do not meet the "need to know" condition that is attached to designated or classified information.

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Old January 28th, 2007, 00:34   #44
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Who cares if we are being watched?

It think it is excellent and maybe it can track down these retarded kids walking around with GBB pistols knocking up corner stores and bringing them to schools
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Old January 28th, 2007, 01:47   #45
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"My Pen Is mightier"
I challenge you to a duel.

But your right, there are many airsofters who doent bother with ASC on a regular basis.
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I've never seen her there.
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I wouldnt expect regular municipal police to be investigating airsoft anyways. Just like I wouldnt expect highway police to investigate internation drug rings.

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