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Old December 14th, 2006, 00:59   #31
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I AM serious. I just have chose not get peoples hopes up until I had a working prototype. Enough people have heard me talk about my idea at games and such!
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Old December 14th, 2006, 01:09   #32
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I'm SUPER serial you guys!

but seriously, i would love to see an affordable airsoft mortar.
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Old December 14th, 2006, 01:14   #33
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Well -- It's alot easier to accomplish hits with variable power.

Less pressure = less distance.

ect ect, + Pressure fires EVERY time.
I dont have to pump it for 10 minutes before firing

As i said before, this is my own little fun toy, so dont worry, i'm not "competing" with you.
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Old December 14th, 2006, 07:36   #34
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What I'd like to know, if you want to sell those commercially, is how you arranged to do that legally at 17?

Do you have a business permit? A permit to build replicas or airguns? Business partners that are over 18?

Those are valid questions you should consider.
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Old December 14th, 2006, 09:38   #35
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are you serious greylock?? Do you really think he wants to make a business of this??? come on...

Tu cherche dla marde ou y'en a pas...

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Old December 14th, 2006, 10:14   #36
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Well if he's getting a patent for it that usually means you do not want anyone else to make money off of "your" idea other then yourself..... so business I'd have to say yes he is planning on making a business out of it. Otherwise why bother witha patent, put it up as free trade information.
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Old December 14th, 2006, 10:21   #37
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i don't think he could get a patent... It looks like any other pneumatic Coaxial spudgun. I mean, hes not the first to do it...

But keep up the good work!
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Old December 14th, 2006, 11:33   #38
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Flack, I am asking valid and important questions he should consider, because if he sells something, makes money from it, that is Income.

Manufacturing anything commercially, as a business, requires the right permits.

If you dont think there are important laws behind that, fine with me.
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Old December 14th, 2006, 13:24   #39
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Something about the patent:

I'm not really going for a patent.. It's a little joke with another team here (Involves them talking about a patent ect ect).

Greylocks, there's nothing in canada that STRICKTLY 100% STATES that you MUST (no acceptions) be over 18 to play. I know of a couple underage people who play the sport (And have their own guns) here in manitoba because they've proved themselves to be responsible ect ect.

And me making these things in my basement, and selling them over the internet wouldn't really be consitered a buisness, How is it any different from people who make and sell lense protectors, and custom gear?

I'm not expecting to sell alot of these things, I just think it would be nice to have some ordanence "devices" in this sport.
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Old December 14th, 2006, 14:05   #40
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Sigh... I am not questioning your age for the right to play. But I am very strongly suggesting that you cover yourself.
Building lens protectors, making clothing and gear, even making propane adaptors is far from the same laws and regulations that apply to making anything at all that shoots something. Allright?

If you plan to sell them, it becomes a business of selling an item that shoots a projectile. This is where being legally an adult will make a difference. If you were just building one for yourself, probably would not matter. But you did say you wanted to sell them. That changes things.

This can, and will, attract attention to yourself. The income you make from it is part of the issue; ever tried to deal with the Tax Man? It's a lot of fun.

Then when it's notice what your product is, it will attract even more attention.

So I am, again, suggesting to you that you cover ALL the bases if you wish to do this. I am NOT saying you should stop, ok? Just check all your options.
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Sigh... I am not questioning your age for the right to play. But I am very strongly suggesting that you cover yourself.
Building lens protectors, making clothing and gear, even making propane adaptors is far from the same laws and regulations that apply to making anything at all that shoots something. Allright?

If you plan to sell them, it becomes a business of selling an item that shoots a projectile. This is where being legally an adult will make a difference. If you were just building one for yourself, probably would not matter. But you did say you wanted to sell them. That changes things.

This can, and will, attract attention to yourself. The income you make from it is part of the issue; ever tried to deal with the Tax Man? It's a lot of fun.

Then when it's notice what your product is, it will attract even more attention.

So I am, again, suggesting to you that you cover ALL the bases if you wish to do this. I am NOT saying you should stop, ok? Just check all your options.
Allright, Sorry for the misunderstanding.

Part of my "development" is checking out the legalities of creating and selling these devices. So far the authorities I've talked to said it wouldn't be a problem aslong as it doesn't involve combustion... But I'm not sure their word will be "legally binding" in court if it comes to that.
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Old December 14th, 2006, 14:41   #42
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Get anything that the authorities tell you on paper, in writing, even on email, and get the paperwork officially signed.

Words dont mean crap.

As for the mortar, if you use a piston system with a spring to power it, I posted exactly that concept for anyone to use on these boards a few years back. So it will be impossible to copyright/license the idea.
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Get anything that the authorities tell you on paper, in writing, even on email, and get the paperwork officially signed.

Words dont mean crap.

As for the mortar, if you use a piston system with a spring to power it, I posted exactly that concept for anyone to use on these boards a few years back. So it will be impossible to copyright/license the idea.
My idea doesn't use mechanical power, through testing I've found that over time mechanical things end up breaking down alot quicker than something that's air powered.

Mine used a pressure imbalance.
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Old December 14th, 2006, 16:07   #44
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I dont have to pump it for 10 minutes before firing

As i said before, this is my own little fun toy, so dont worry, i'm not "competing" with you.
Mine takes about 3-5 seconds to pressurize..

By the time you've got it loaded it'll already be fully pressurized.



If you need any suggestions on how to get a bigger boom out of it I'd be glad to help you, I know a fair share about combustion ones.. (and that's why I've ruled them out for airsoft.. They're just FAR too dangerous)
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Old December 14th, 2006, 16:55   #45
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That boom is just loud enough for me... echo going for 2-3 city blocks after shooting it
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