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Old September 12th, 2006, 13:45   #1
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winter gameing

its just about time for this, ive got some questions id like cleared up. i wasnt sure where the best place for this was.

-what gun (if any) is best suited for winter gameing.
-is there one that performs better than others and less prone to cold damage, (ie. mechbox internals grenading, body and other parts cracking, mag issues)
-would a plastic or metal body be better?

-what kind of tips can anybody give.
-should you back your hop up all they way off?
-should you insulate your battery housing?
-how cold is too cold?

-nimh are reccommended for winter play correct?

-how well do gbbs perform in the winter.

-what kind of reccomendations does anybody have gear wise?
-what goggles are more prone to fail from a winter shot.
-what bbs perform batter (or are they even affected)

any other info on issues associated with winter gaming would be appreciated. i didnt play last winter at all and i dont want to miss out this year.
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Old September 12th, 2006, 13:54   #2
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Any large battery gun is fine.

As long as you don't take long burst, there shouldn't be a problem with mech box breaking. I've seen people putting hot packs on their battery, I don't think it works.

GBB are sh!t and don't really work at all, I just use an AEP.
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Old September 12th, 2006, 13:55   #3
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gas guns dont preform in the winter. the gas wont vapourise properly when the temp is to low so you get one or 2 shots off and then it vents the rest of the gas.
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Old September 12th, 2006, 13:57   #4
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Any gun that's not a v2 gearbox.

NiCad batteries will kick NiMH batteries around.

Adjust your hop up accordingly, no need to back it off, but it will become stiffer with the cold, so you'll have to completely reset it on play day.

Keep your battery warm to improve performance.

GBBs DON'T perform at all in the winter... although you're okay down to around -10 degrees. You probably won't be able to empty an entire mag of BBs at that temp though.

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Old September 12th, 2006, 14:53   #5
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NiCad batteries will kick NiMH batteries around.
I've had very different experience... My 3700mAh NiMH ran a LOT longer in my CA33E than the 2400mAh NiCads in other teammates' guns on a very cold (-10 to -20) day. In fact, my battery lasted the entire game, whereas all of the NiCads that I saw had died or were dying by the end.
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Old September 12th, 2006, 20:32   #6
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yeah but harley, you had 1200 more Mah than the nicads, a difference like that you will figure a nimh will last longer, do that test again with the same rated batteries.
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Old September 12th, 2006, 20:34   #7
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Why? 2400's the highest you can get NiCad sub-c packs in, and you can get higher mAh NiMH packs for less money. The fact is my battery lasted for way more than just the mAh difference would account for.
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Old September 12th, 2006, 20:44   #8
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so why not with the v2 illusion, will it just accentuate the risk of cracking the shell? i have a fmu m4 w/ a systema mechbox, any danger, or should i wip out my xm8 for the winter?

also let me know if any of these guns are in danger

sig 551 systema torque up gears, upgraded spring and bushings, systema piston

552 uprgraded spring and bushings

famas stock

m14 stock (tm)

g36 uprgraded spring and bushings

ak upgraded spring and bushing

stock m4 and m16
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Old September 12th, 2006, 23:32   #9
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good questions, im waiting for answers... well for the hop up thing, i mean, what do i have to do with it after a winter game? i dont really understand that part, keeping hop up on will damage it ??? or the hop up just wont work for the time you're in the cold?? thx
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Old September 13th, 2006, 08:57   #10
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One-piece v2 gearboxes have a general design flaw across all brands. I've cracked Progear (Systema) "reinforced" v2 gearboxes while playing in the winter before.

The sig551 I may worry about because it's so plasticy... plastic becomes brittle when cold

The 552 should be okay, but you'll have to run an external battery pack, a mini won't cut it.

The M14 should be fine, the gearbox seems strong.

G36 and AK seem fine.

STOCK v2 gearbox guns should be okay as long as you keep dry firing to a minimum.


meuhey: regarding hop up, nobody said that keeping it on will damage it. Just that because the material becomes stiffer in the cold, you'll have to reduce your regular hop up setting on game day to compensate or your BBs will have too much backspin on it.
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Old September 13th, 2006, 09:19   #11
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im quite positive the m14 will work fine and have minimal damage to it.
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Old September 13th, 2006, 16:18   #12
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well thanks alot illusion i owe you one.
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Old September 15th, 2006, 23:10   #13
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For my winter experience, my good old MC-51's gearbox shell broked off in two at the end of a winter game, but it was REALLY old and used.
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Old October 22nd, 2006, 12:45   #14
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Are you guys saying that a V3 gearbox would work better in winter than the V2's ?
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That's exactly what's being said.
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