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Old October 17th, 2016, 02:19   #16
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I have seen this thread come up so many times I may go out of my way and make a writeup one of these days...

Krytac is not billet, I have no idea where you got that idea from. BenG I think you should get some more first hand experience before you start preaching so much. Krytac also has a shitty paint job, it scratches as soon as it touches a hard surface.

VFC is cast aluminum finished via CNC machining. I suspect Krytac would be the same. I used to work for the only Krytac dealer in Canada, I am now a partner with VFC Canada.

Krytac does not "walk all over VFC". Krytac has better wiring, better MOSFET, slightly better motor, but it still has shitty magnets. I have seen Krytac gears strip, I have seen Krytac gears come apart, I have also seen defective hop up assemblies.

Krytac is still a good contender for best AEG out of the box, but it is not a landslide by any means. It is also not that proprietary, you can put pretty much anything standard in the gearbox.

I have never seen a VFC gear set strip by itself, and I've worked on over 100 of them. VFC has a better air seal, more durable gear set, FAR BETTER externals, I have also never seen a defective VFC hop up assembly, I have only seen users break the old clear plastic ones.
I own a krytac and a VFC 416 not sure which hand i have to touch them with first to get some first hand experiance, I mentioned earlier that the neomagnets in the krytacs motor are synthetic, and where not the strongest, by anymeans but its a step in the right direction. Your right the first generation of krytac that I own is not a billet reciever, but I swear I read and can no longer find it that the new Mk2 line was making use of billet recievers, I stand corrected there. Ive yet to chip my paint as well despite having it fall down a flight of stairs and me landing on top of it The gears are hit and miss, like SHS bevels.... ill say that, mine have yet to fail and im going to be leaving the gearbox and motor stock until they do to see the limits of them.

Im also curious, how did the hop up units fail that you saw? id assume either the wheel popped off or the tail end of the arm that locks into the wheel snapped.
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Old October 17th, 2016, 09:50   #17
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Krytac is Billet? Like CNC'd billet 6061? I have a Krytac, someone must have replaced it with a pot metal receiver.
no airsoft gun is billet cnced.

Everything is cast.

Everything is potmetal with varying ratios of different metals of which include aluminum.

The CNC portion is the finish work, pin holes, rail slots, etc.

It's the same with gears, but swap pot metal with sintered steel. The only billet steel gears are riot siegetek.
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Old October 17th, 2016, 10:27   #18
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The MK2 has "Krytac billet style Aluminum alloy receivers" according to the Evike write-up. Not sure what exactly that means.
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Old October 17th, 2016, 10:50   #19
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It's marketing jargon and means nothing. Cast alloy aka pot-metal.
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Old October 17th, 2016, 14:48   #20
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I am going to go and get a VFC ... partly because lurkingknight thinks so

He is the local gun doc in Ottawa(where I am from) and if he is the go to guy in Ottawa - then sure as hell I am going to get something that he recommends

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Old October 17th, 2016, 15:43   #21
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The MK2 has "Krytac billet style Aluminum alloy receivers" according to the Evike write-up. Not sure what exactly that means.
billet implies that it is cut out of a single piece of aluminum.

I find that hard to believe, considering a billet gearbox shell.. and they exist, costs 150ish$ vs a potmetal one around 60$, a krytac aeg costs around the same amount as a vfc which is not billet.

Either someone has figured out a way to machine toy gun receivers out of solid aluminum cheaper than you can cast the same part, or someone has their info fucked up.

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@lurkinking - be a av rep for Ottawa and make end my misery on getting age verified
give me 20 guns to do all needing full upgrades and parts to pay for new floors in my house, and then install them for free.

Then maybe I will AV rep. :P

I've had time and money to play once in the last 3 months. I don't have time to AV rep, if I have time, I'm using it to do things that need to be done because I have no money to have other people do these things for me. :P
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Old October 17th, 2016, 21:22   #22
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The MK2 has "Krytac billet style Aluminum alloy receivers" according to the Evike write-up. Not sure what exactly that means.
It means the body is cast in a machined billet style look. It's not actually machined. G&G is doing the same thing with their SR series ans several others. The bodies have the angular look of a machined billet receiver set but are just cast that way.
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