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Old November 29th, 2005, 09:13   #31
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Gun: MK23 NBB
Propelent: 1 can of Butane Lighter Fluid
Use/Damage: Shows little sign of use after me cocking it back consistantly (the slide) and I have put like 200+ shots on it, stilll fires great and no sign of wear or stress on the gun.
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Old November 29th, 2005, 09:21   #32
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You've been firing lighter fluid? Geeze, what happened to duster and propane? Is lighter fluid safe to shoot? MadMax?
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Old November 29th, 2005, 11:48   #33
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Gun: marushin derringer 8mm
Propelent: i assume propane at one time and now duster (atleast a bottle through it)
Use/Damage: The gun leaked on delivery as i was informed. I assume it was ran on propane causing the gas resevoir in the pistol grip to cause the screws holding it to loosen. Loctite teflon tape and putting the screw back in now holds it in tight and works flawlessly.

Gun: KJW mk1 carbine
Propelentropane before i owned it, now runs on duster (3 or 4 cans now)
Use/Damage: plastic hopup unit in it sucks and cracks easily. Fixed with a very hard to find metal hopup. Gun works flawlessly now.
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Old November 29th, 2005, 15:31   #34
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I don't think he means lighter fluid as in the ronson stuff for Zippo's. I think he means the slim butane cans with a tip that seems just right for airsoft.

It's not particularly dangerous as butane is as flammable as propane, but butane only exerts 40ish psi whereas propane pushes 115psi at room temp. 40psi is too low to cycle most gbb slides. You'd get a slide lockup and the gun would poof all of it's gass on the 2nd or 3rd shot.
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Old November 29th, 2005, 16:07   #35
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Gun: G26 #1
Propellant: Duster (Tetra)
Use/Problems: No problems after 10,000 rounds (yep!)

Gun: G26 # 2
Propellant: Propane for 300 rounds, then duster
Use/Problems: Slide cracked at the front at three hundred rounds, switched to duster after that (and a new plastic slide from a KJWG27) and no problems whatsoever at around 4000 rounds
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Old November 29th, 2005, 16:17   #36
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Yes, I use airisol butane lighter fluid. It could not work better. Try it out some time
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Old November 29th, 2005, 16:20   #37
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Originally Posted by MadMax
I don't think he means lighter fluid as in the ronson stuff for Zippo's. I think he means the slim butane cans with a tip that seems just right for airsoft.

It's not particularly dangerous as butane is as flammable as propane, but butane only exerts 40ish psi whereas propane pushes 115psi at room temp. 40psi is too low to cycle most gbb slides. You'd get a slide lockup and the gun would poof all of it's gass on the 2nd or 3rd shot.
Yeah, it seems to have the same output power. I could be wrong tho...
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Old November 30th, 2005, 13:29   #38
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GBB model:WE-TECH hicapa(second owner)

Propellent:1 bottle of coleman propane

Failure:Twisted loading nozzle, probably happens when using Tm mags doesn't cycle with TM mags anymore but works flawlesly with original mag.
Its cured....i remplaced the original loading nozzle by a garder enhanced loading nozzle for marui hicapa 5.1.Both mags works fine now
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Old December 5th, 2005, 14:59   #39
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KSC USP Compact
Bought new from Specarms
Propellant: around 3 to 4 bottles Ozark Trail Propane
BBs: Airsoft Elite 0.25g and 0.20g

Problems: Damn, where do I start?

Safety wore down and became useless after less than a month. Decocker works but placing the catch on safe and squeezing the trigger will disengage it.

Original plastic slide destroyed after a thousand or so rounds. Slide catch broke and effectively doubled in length, rear of slide cracked and broke lengthwise in two places on left side and popped off the frame when fired. Replaced with a slightly used plastic slide.

Entire rear of the frame - underneath the hammer, above the backstrap - cracked and broke off exposing the metal hammer assembly. Doesn't affect function.

Second plastic slide showing signs of destruction; slide catch notch peening, cracks developing around rear sight.

Jams occasionally upon firing, not coming fully into battery requiring a push on the slide to lock it up.

Overall I'm extremely disappointed with this pistol and KSC in general. I will not be buying another KSC product.
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Old December 5th, 2005, 15:38   #40
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Wow, it's not the first bad USP by KSC I've heard about. Anyone with USPs in good condition?
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Old December 5th, 2005, 16:00   #41
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#1 TM M92F TACTICAL MASTER

UPGRADES : Firefly valve, Metal slide, Recoil spring, Metal hammer and Hogue grip

PROPELLANT : Propane ( Canadian tire or wallmart ) 1000 bb's

PROBLEMS : Nozzle spring was jammed, botom seal leaking.

COMMENTS : Everything else is working fine, realy strong GBB and very solid, work flawlessly.

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#2 : KWA G23F

UPGRADES : Tightbore barrel.

PROPELLANT : Propane ( Canadian tire or wallmart ) 500 bb's

PROBLEMS : The Hop up sleeve was craked.

COMMENTS : Everything else is working fine. Amazing GBB, to work with, metal slide.

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Old December 5th, 2005, 18:56   #42
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It's not KSC's fault you used propane in a gun designed for duster. That's like blaming TM for a bad design after you stripped your AEG's gears by using a 12V 6000 mAh battery.
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Old December 5th, 2005, 20:36   #43
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It's not KSC's fault you used propane in a gun designed for duster. That's like blaming TM for a bad design after you stripped your AEG's gears by using a 12V 6000 mAh battery.
Try reading this thread more closely and do a little research on the USP Compact. It's a problem gun for almost everyone who owns one. There are dozens of guns that are designed to run on duster but take propane without issue. I have had three KSC guns and all have either broken or had major problems even with regular maintenance and care. I don't know if I just attract lemons but the fact of the matter is, I am unimpressed.
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Old December 5th, 2005, 22:11   #44
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If your 3 bad experiences with KSC guns had all used duster gas, then I can see why you would not like KSC guns. But if you used a higher gas than was intended for the USP, how can it be KSC's fault that you misused it? If one of your other two KSC guns broke under duster gas, then it would be KSC's fault, but not for this particular instance with the USP.

Anyways,

I've used 2 KWA G19's, 1 KSC G19, and 1 KWA M11 for 2 years, all with propane and have had zero problems so far.
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Old December 5th, 2005, 22:21   #45
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You just don't seem to get it.

The issue with the frame cracking is because it apparently overlaps the frame rails at the rear, which causes slide strikes on the frame and eventually breaks pieces off.

That a good enough non-gas related reason to be unimpressed?
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