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Old May 9th, 2015, 22:08   #1
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Regarding GBBR (Keith). Anyone left with outstanding work/money owed.

I would like to think anyone looking for a gun doc as of recent, they would not go to GBBR (Keith Y.) as he is mostly banned. But if you have something left owing and are getting no results/the run around/etc.. Here's a story for you.

August 2014 I sent him an AGM MP40 for some TLC and a hopup mod, asked if he could do it before mid September.
Was told yup shouldn't be a problem.

Early September was told he was fairly busy, and there was a lot wrong. I told him no rush, make it shine.

January/February I inquired again, told a lot wrong, did this, done that, still need to fix this and that.

Overall very dark and usually vague leaving things left unanswered.

Early March inquiry... Was told he ordered a new one, gave up on old one, should be here next week.
Told him I don't care for a new one nor do I care of the state of my old one, I would just like it back.
Was told he was having parent issues, did not want to go back to his house, something something. Very vague and worrisome. Although I can relate to this situation it is still a nuisance.
Week and a half goes by... Pictures posted up on Facebook of some random guys gun with a "Hey, look what I found while cleaning my room"
Told him to find mine while he was at it. Another fellow requested the same thing.

Spoke with the other individual, was in the same boat as I was except Keith gave him a partial refund. Was suggested I just keep on bugging him.

Began to bug Keith as to the whereabouts of the supposed replacement, got a bit of the run around, it was seized. He offered a refund, half next later tonight (April 4th) the rest later on. Next few days I get simple answers of "Busy at work"
Finally April 6th he sends more than half.
I apologized for bugging him, he told me not to apologize and that it was his fault. Told me to bug him again on the 15th.
By all means, he could have easily took me off Facebook and attempted to vanish.
April 15th I bug, nothing.
April 16th, sent the remainder and all is done.

In the end... Huge waste of time and I will never have my old one back.
The newer productions of AGM MP40's are "meh"
No markings and cheaper externals. But whatever, I did get a nice refund.

Clearly he goes to his house for one thing or another despite "not wanting to go there".
I have a gut feeling he may have sold it to pay some of his legal fees or god knows what.

Anyhow.. if you have anything outstanding from him I strongly encourage you to get on the horn, loud and clear.
Keep at it.

Just a friendly suggestions to those possibly still waiting in the dark, getting the run around, etc..
Best of luck.
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Old May 9th, 2015, 22:55   #2
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that sucks man. How much was your gun worth? What did he give you if you don't mind me asking?
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Old May 10th, 2015, 02:44   #3
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I remember a post from awhile back stating that he was injured, but what I do not understand was why he was banned. I'm guessing its in the AV section right?
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Old May 10th, 2015, 03:50   #4
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Old May 10th, 2015, 08:28   #5
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that sucks man. How much was your gun worth? What did he give you if you don't mind me asking?
Gun was worth a lot more in sentiment than really anything. Was one of the first WW2 toys I ever had, 5-6 years ish ago? Like I mention the older models were (IMO) far better.. they had nice markings and better quality metal.
Newer ones have no markings at all.. alas.

Anyhow.. They run for $200-300 now, and he offered $400.
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Old May 10th, 2015, 12:58   #6
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Anyhow.. They run for $200-300 now, and he offered $400.
They run for $200 new and he gave you $400 for a used gun? This thread should be more like a positive experience with Keith.
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Old May 10th, 2015, 15:06   #7
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Keith's life has been complicated sorry to hear you got the runaround like that John, I remember your MP40 at Challenger, not sure what happened to it when the store folded.
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Old May 10th, 2015, 18:25   #8
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They run for $200 new and he gave you $400 for a used gun? This thread should be more like a positive experience with Keith.
Used gun with upgrades.
By all means I give him a big pat on the back for giving what he did.. But overall it was a huge waste of time and things could have gone better from the start... Not a positive experience IMO.

In the end - I would like you to give your dog to a groomer, wait a year.. and get the run around, only to be told "Hey here's double the money for the value of your dog"
You'd want your old dog back too...

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Keith's life has been complicated sorry to hear you got the runaround like that John, I remember your MP40 at Challenger, not sure what happened to it when the store folded.
I totally understand that he is going through complications, I just wish he would have given it back when things were going down hill or been more communicative.

By all means, situation could have gone a lot worse and I am not trying to 'bad mouth' him or start shit.. Just putting the situation out there for anyone who might be in the same boat.
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Old May 10th, 2015, 20:05   #9
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It is understandable that you'd be upset in this situation, but it does sound like Keith made a good attempt at resolving it fairly in the end.
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Old May 11th, 2015, 11:33   #10
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At least you got something for it. But you should have gotten your equipment back.
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Old May 11th, 2015, 15:35   #11
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never get in over your head, and when people start pressing you, at least realize you are in over your head. I don't think keith intended to screw anyone over as he seems like a regular dude, but when you start falling behind the work, stop taking work and if that doensn't solve things, start giving stuff back. There's a reason I try to keep it to 1-2 guns per week when people ask me to do stuff. Even though sometimes I still end up with like 10. lol.

It's possible that anything left in the store when it folded (and depending how it folded) was seized and sold off ah la the liquidator to pay off debts. But that's just a guess, it really depends on the circumstances of how things wrapped up, if it was a clean shutdown or a 6 months behind in bills kind of shutdown.
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GBBR Banned himself, lets vote for an unbanning so we can ban him again,

GBBR could have easily blocked you on FB, or avoided you, but it seems like he tried his best to make it worth your while for wasting your time, I'm pretty sure no one else would care to even give you DOUBLE the value of your gun NEW,
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if kos wasnt happy with this offer why did he accept
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if kos wasnt happy with this offer why did he accept
My understanding is that Kaos' original gun is long gone, and he did not want the new model. Thus, the money back was about all he could do.

Regardless, this doesn't seem like it was posted as a Keith bashing thread, just a heads up to bug Keith about getting stuff back.
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