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Old February 4th, 2015, 11:01   #1
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BB gun legal requirement

Just bought a BB gun, first gun ever,, LeBaron cashier asked for driver license# in order to complete the purchase, is that normal?
From what I read, BB gun is not a firearm, can be just sold over the counter, why the store ask for identity?

The store have no clue where I can use or cannot use, but they said most people shoot them in basement for target training. I know I can't use it outdoor within the city limit, can you recommend a BB shooting range indoor/outdoor close to city Mississauga?

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Old February 4th, 2015, 11:08   #2
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Depends on what did you buy, a pellet gun or an airsoft gun
An airsoft gun is technically an uncontrolled firearm, and they want to make you are of age
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Old February 4th, 2015, 11:11   #3
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Thats kinda weird. You're not allowed to actually purchase a BB gun if you're under the age of 18 so I guess it was lost in the translation?
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Old February 4th, 2015, 11:19   #4
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Not only checking age, stores can request your info and provide it to law enforcement if a crime is committed using an item they sell. Happens all the time with purchase of pellet guns, extendable batons and other such items.
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Old February 4th, 2015, 12:13   #5
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I was under the impression that extendable batons are forbidden devices in canada. I recall seeing it on the big chart of 'things we don't allow to be imported' at the border.
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I was under the impression that extendable batons are forbidden devices in canada. I recall seeing it on the big chart of 'things we don't allow to be imported' at the border.
Forbidden from importation, not possession i believe. Similar to how airsoft guns shooting under 300 fps are restricted replicas aka not allowed to import, but are legal to own and purchase in country. Cops and private security are allowed to use and possess batons in Canada.
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Old February 4th, 2015, 12:34   #7
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In Ontario you have to be 18 to purchase pellet guns or airsoft guns.

In the rest of Canada there is no such regulation (except if the store has a policy of their own).
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Old February 4th, 2015, 12:37   #8
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Replica firearms (366fps, not 300) are prohibited devices: no importing, no buying or possessing, unless you have a permit for it (usually pretty much just cinema industry and such)
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Old February 4th, 2015, 12:43   #9
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Replica firearms (366fps, not 300) are prohibited devices: no importing, no buying or possessing, unless you have a permit for it (usually pretty much just cinema industry and such)
That's mostly for CBSA regulation and importation. That's less relevant when it's in country.
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Local bylaws coupled with the store just doing it's due diligence. They have taken accountability for selling you something dangerous incase you commit a crime, so it's just them covering their butt. You can shoot the BB gun outside of city limits, but be somewhere away from people, you don't want to scare someone out walking their dog. Know anyone with some farm property? That would be best. Is it a BB gun or airsoft gun? They aren't technically the same thing. If it's an airsoft gun, you can google any local airsoft fields/facilities and use it there. If it's a BB gun, well, I can't imagine there are any gun ranges or airsoft fields that'll allow it, so you're pretty much stuck to private property or way out in the woods.
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Old February 4th, 2015, 13:28   #11
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That's mostly for CBSA regulation and importation. That's less relevant when it's in country.

Yes and no
http://www.rcmp.gc.ca/cfp-pcaf/fs-fd...plique-eng.htm

Sorry for "offtopic"
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Old February 4th, 2015, 13:42   #12
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That is the RCMP's opinion of the law, not actual law.
Although it's common sense that the importation law should transfer over to domestic law, the fact is it is still ONLY an importation requirement.
That being said, ultimately any charges brought against you end up with you explaining yourself to another human being (horray for fair trial), in which I'm sure anyone would accept the explanation that you're actually trying to cause LESS harm to people by lowering the muzzle energy.
In all seriousness, it would take an ignorant monster of a judge to convict you of lowering the muzzle energy of your airsoft gun for the sole purpose of trying to prevent physical harm.
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Old February 4th, 2015, 17:29   #13
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it is a BB gun, not airsoft.
I get the age part, but what about muzzle velocity. It is up to 480 fps, is it a firearm? there seems a lot of myth about laws.
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Old February 4th, 2015, 17:45   #14
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Just don't shoot birds or rabbits with it and you'll be fine.
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Old February 4th, 2015, 19:32   #15
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It needs to surpass both 500fps and 5.7j before it's considered a firearm that must be registered.

Airsoft guns can be 600fps and be fine
paintball guns can be 8-12j and be fine
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