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Old July 13th, 2014, 13:06   #16
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but if they say no, its a milsim use current weapons. then you have to use a current weapon.
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Old July 13th, 2014, 13:07   #17
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Old July 13th, 2014, 13:08   #18
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Really the only thing that stands in your way is mounting AEG internals into what ever you build. Once you accept the design of what you want then you just have to engineer yourself a mechbox, barrel, hopup and some sort of way to feed it all. For the HB this is why I suggested something more along the lines of a 249 because then you just use a big ammo box to feed it; make a shell to cover up or decorate one of the big oversized green ones from A&K. Really the only thing that will be difficult will be shimming and securing your motor to mechbox ((unless you go straight to a V3 mechbox and then its got a cage to fix that right up)) and making sure the ammo feed is aligned so you don't have double/tripple/no feeds. Everything else is cosmetic.
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I'm pretty new to airsoft, I've played tactical paintball for over ten years so I can take my marker apart, clean it, repair, and put it together no problem. Airsoft I have no idea how to take it apart or even how mine works (I'm actually scared to try and take it apart as it was 500.00 lol)

Essentially I'm trying to avoid gutting it and using those guts and making a frame, my manufacturing level is limited, just to change the barrel to a typical LMG length and craft a shell around the existing rifle to make it functional as well as boss lol

I'm doing this because I don't identify with any of the airsoft weapons on the market I want different :wink:
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Old July 13th, 2014, 13:11   #19
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you'd have to discuss that with the game host.
if they say yeah sure its some new super awesome gun the military has been experimenting with fine.
but if they say no, its a milsim use current weapons. then you have to use a current weapon.
Completely reasonable.
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Old July 13th, 2014, 13:41   #20
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Also note it will not be as...massive as the actual HB, more the size of a saw.
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Old July 13th, 2014, 15:23   #21
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For us it is in no way reinactment. There are several types of airsoft out there, and though most revolve around shooting each other, that's where the similarities end. Anything involving airsoft guns is called airsoft. The majority of airsoft is generally what is referred to as "mil-sim". Like 80% or more of the players, games, teams, fields, events, etc, are based on a modern tactical, combat sport. That looks really cool and all, and I myself might make a lancer from GOW, or a pulse rifle, etc, it would end up on my wall, not in game. To make a gun more bulky, awkward, noticeable, etc, etc, etc, etc, and unable to be compatible with real world optics or accessories is tactically a very far step in the wrong direction to any groups like that. That's why you'll find a home with either a war-hammer group (good luck finding one in your area), a sci-fi group (again good luck), or an "anything-goes" type group or field. That last one is fairly likely.

It's not about being strict, it just isn't the same game. It's like showing up to a hockey game with a pool cue, that's the reaction you'll likely get. Hopefully this is a differing perspective for you. There are events I've seen where people show up dressed like Indiana Jones, carrying a large broad sword, in futuristic/post-apocalyptic garb, and everything else under the sun. Most places though, you'd be the only one with something like your "bolter", and they won't allow it because it defeats the purpose of items that actually make guns more ergonomic, your ability to conceal yourself, etc. Which is the whole point of the main/progressive style of airsoft.

It does look cool and all, and this is just a warning on what to expect. When you're in someone else's house it's their rules, their way. If you look around and your in the middle of a bunch of modern warfare gear up competitive players and you're standing their with that, you'll feel like a goof.

As for making it, I'd grab a gun that is nearly the same size, and work off of it. You could make it out of a smaller gun such as your M4 CQB, but then you wouldn't need to modify it at all, just build over it. You could then remove the gun at any time and it's still an M4. This method may take some more engineering though.
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Old July 13th, 2014, 17:09   #22
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I think you misunderstood my comment.
I did read that wrong, my bad. It would had been a very sad day to read that LMG's were no longer wanted on the field.


Anyway. I say if you have the time and patience to undertake building something to be unique and cool go for it. Even if it only sees a game or two in its life time you'll have enjoyed the process of building this thing. Just undertake the project as something to accomplish rather than to appease some random group of individuals.
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Old July 13th, 2014, 17:10   #23
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Just to clarify my statement:
I dont mean people will laugh at it because its a fantasy gun, I personally would disregard it as a threat because its simply so damn large and cumbersome.

Nothing wrong with having the rifle you want. I myself fucking LOVE the SR25 with the PRS stock on it, but I like effectiveness more and my 10" MK18 does the same job, if not better. So the length and weight of the SR25 would make me less effective.
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Old July 13th, 2014, 21:08   #24
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I was thinking about building a bolt pistol from 40k, but on a smaller scale for a Imperial Guard Commissar using an AEP as a base. Found a place that made a rubber prop chainsword, all I need now is to make the costume for it. Once it complete, I'm sure it'll scare some people (mainly those that on my team) and would be fun during skirmishes. Might be useful for milsims too because after playing a few milsim games, sometimes you need the motivational skills of a commissar.
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Old July 13th, 2014, 21:17   #25
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I was thinking about building a bolt pistol from 40k, but on a smaller scale for a Imperial Guard Commissar using an AEP as a base. Found a place that made a rubber prop chainsword, all I need now is to make the costume for it. Once it complete, I'm sure it'll scare some people (mainly those that on my team) and would be fun during skirmishes. Might be useful for milsims too because after playing a few milsim games, sometimes you need the motivational skills of a commissar.
unless said commissar meets with an unfortunate "accident"
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Old July 13th, 2014, 21:46   #26
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unless said commissar meets with an unfortunate "accident"
Now you're thinking like a Catachan.
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Old July 13th, 2014, 22:09   #27
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Now you're thinking like a Catachan.
is there any other way?
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Old July 13th, 2014, 23:45   #28
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For us it is in no way reinactment. There are several types of airsoft out there, and though most revolve around shooting each other, that's where the similarities end. Anything involving airsoft guns is called airsoft. The majority of airsoft is generally what is referred to as "mil-sim". Like 80% or more of the players, games, teams, fields, events, etc, are based on a modern tactical, combat sport. That looks really cool and all, and I myself might make a lancer from GOW, or a pulse rifle, etc, it would end up on my wall, not in game. To make a gun more bulky, awkward, noticeable, etc, etc, etc, etc, and unable to be compatible with real world optics or accessories is tactically a very far step in the wrong direction to any groups like that. That's why you'll find a home with either a war-hammer group (good luck finding one in your area), a sci-fi group (again good luck), or an "anything-goes" type group or field. That last one is fairly likely.

It's not about being strict, it just isn't the same game. It's like showing up to a hockey game with a pool cue, that's the reaction you'll likely get. Hopefully this is a differing perspective for you. There are events I've seen where people show up dressed like Indiana Jones, carrying a large broad sword, in futuristic/post-apocalyptic garb, and everything else under the sun. Most places though, you'd be the only one with something like your "bolter", and they won't allow it because it defeats the purpose of items that actually make guns more ergonomic, your ability to conceal yourself, etc. Which is the whole point of the main/progressive style of airsoft.

It does look cool and all, and this is just a warning on what to expect. When you're in someone else's house it's their rules, their way. If you look around and your in the middle of a bunch of modern warfare gear up competitive players and you're standing their with that, you'll feel like a goof.

As for making it, I'd grab a gun that is nearly the same size, and work off of it. You could make it out of a smaller gun such as your M4 CQB, but then you wouldn't need to modify it at all, just build over it. You could then remove the gun at any time and it's still an M4. This method may take some more engineering though.
Oh I'd rock that hockey game with my pool cue, I'd use it like a baseball bat lol

I totally get you, its the atmosphere and effectiveness, the only reason I'm doing this is just to have fun weilding a massive gun from a game in my younger years, like driving your dream sports car.

Ima try and make it as milsim as I can but if it doesn't work I just pop out my m4 cqb s and go nuts

But I get you, for walk on only, and nerd groups lol
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Old July 13th, 2014, 23:47   #29
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I did read that wrong, my bad. It would had been a very sad day to read that LMG's were no longer wanted on the field.


Anyway. I say if you have the time and patience to undertake building something to be unique and cool go for it. Even if it only sees a game or two in its life time you'll have enjoyed the process of building this thing. Just undertake the project as something to accomplish rather than to appease some random group of individuals.
Thanks man, this my paintball attempt, then I retired to play airsoft lol
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Old July 13th, 2014, 23:49   #30
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I was thinking about building a bolt pistol from 40k, but on a smaller scale for a Imperial Guard Commissar using an AEP as a base. Found a place that made a rubber prop chainsword, all I need now is to make the costume for it. Once it complete, I'm sure it'll scare some people (mainly those that on my team) and would be fun during skirmishes. Might be useful for milsims too because after playing a few milsim games, sometimes you need the motivational skills of a commissar.
Exactly, my HB will scaled down, kinda like an assault version, so its not massive lol.

But ccw I go with power fist to make things go squish.
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