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Old December 18th, 2013, 19:23   #1
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Why Over 366 FPS?

Hey all, been a while since I've lurked these forums.

It came to mind that according to Canadian Laws, an airsoft gun can only be imported if its between 366 and 500 fps. Anything below 366 fps is illegal, to my understanding

My question is why? Wouldn't it make more sense for 366 (hypothetically) to be the limit? Why accept hotter guns and ban ones that have less chance to injure?

Also, sorry if this has been posted, I searched a little and googled it and can't really find much.

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Old December 18th, 2013, 19:40   #2
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Old December 18th, 2013, 20:37   #3
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Replica = illegal

366 FPS with 0.20g BBs = Can hurt you

Replica = can't hurt you

Anything that can hurt you = not a replica

If you want a gun that shoots under 366, make sure it has a clear or smoked receiver/frame, etc.

In a nutshell.
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Old December 18th, 2013, 20:48   #4
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It came to mind that according to Canadian Laws, an airsoft gun can only be imported if its between 366 and 500 fps. Anything below 366 fps is illegal, to my understanding
That's not quite accurate, the inferior limit is 366 fps with .20g BBs and the upper limit is 500 fps AND 5.7joules, which works out to over 700 fps with .20g BBs. For the majority of airsoft guns, there isn't an "upper limit."
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Old December 18th, 2013, 22:27   #5
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Firearm = pew pew = damage = legal.
Replica = no pew pew = no damage = illegal.

Studies concluded that a projectile with a velocity of 366 fps, in the case of a airsoft non-replica, could cause significant damage, which classifies it as a firearm.

Studies also concluded that a projectile with a kinetic energy of 5.7 joules, assuming a velocity of at least 500 fps, for a firearm is lethal enough to classify it as a restricted firearm.

Airsoft above 366fps/1.25J = firearm.
Firearm = pew pew = damage = legal.

Airsoft above 500fps/5.70J = restricted firearm.
Restricted firearm = pew pew death = restricted (but still legal!).

Welcome to AirsoftCanada. Also, change every occurence of the word "restricted" for "controlled".
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Old December 19th, 2013, 01:23   #6
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Firearm = pew pew = damage = legal.
Replica = no pew pew = no damage = illegal.
Studies concluded that a projectile with a velocity of 366 fps, in the case of a airsoft non-replica, could cause significant damage, which classifies it as an uncontrolled firearm.

Studies also concluded that a projectile with a kinetic energy of 5.7 joules, assuming a velocity of at least 500 fps, for a firearm is lethal enough to classify it as a non restricted firearm.

Airsoft above 366fps/1.25J = un controlled firearm.
uncontrolled Firearm = pew pew = damage = legal.

Airsoft above 500fps/5.70J = non restricted firearm.
firearm = pew pew death = controlled (but still legal!).

Canadian law allows for Non restricted and restricted Fire Arms. Both have separate Licences that must be tested and granted by the appropriate authorities. RCMP or CFO. The Airsoft guns are Un Controlled Firearms in that they are like Pellet Guns, to wit, they shoot something that will cause bodily harm or maim, but lacks the ability to cause death. 366 is a formulated # decided that it is sufficient to cause the above effects shy of death.
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Old December 19th, 2013, 01:30   #7
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M'yeah, that's what I meant. I got the word "controlled" and "restricted" mixed up. Blame it on my less than perfect mastery of the English language. That's what I deserve for acting like an ass. Thanks for clarifying.
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Old December 19th, 2013, 02:11   #8
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Stupid laws that don't make sense. If you were to order a gun via states or anywhere else get documentation proving it shoots the required fps.
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Old December 19th, 2013, 03:15   #9
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Well, they do make sense, sort of. Basically imagine Canada without airsoft, but you needed laws that cover everything from firearms to replicas, and everything in between. So now you come up with a complex set of regulations, based upon your current need, but then you add airsoft to the mix. Basically we fell into a series of categorizations, and our current "airgun" laws, are the legal work around provided, so that we can fit into the system.
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Old December 19th, 2013, 03:17   #10
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yeah would be nice if airsoft were popular enough to get its own separate laws but thats unlikely to happen ...
cuz really ... who cares if they shoot lower than 366
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yeah would be nice if airsoft were popular enough to get its own separate laws but thats unlikely to happen ...
cuz really ... who cares if they shoot lower than 366
be careful what you ask for.. as the most likely airsoft specific law would be a prohibition.
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Old December 19th, 2013, 13:13   #12
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M'yeah, that's what I meant. I got the word "controlled" and "restricted" mixed up. Blame it on my less than perfect mastery of the English language. That's what I deserve for acting like an ass. Thanks for clarifying.

You stammered it out in English better than I could in French, monsieur.
I only clarified because the words do carry specific differences in the regulations surrounding them.
As far as the stooped laws go we have a distinct law regarding airsoft. as the US has the rules around the Orange Tip and Great Britain has the rules about Semi only, no full auto. So in the grand scheme of things we are doing OK.
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Old December 19th, 2013, 14:12   #13
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Studies concluded that a projectile with a velocity of 366 fps, in the case of a airsoft non-replica, could cause significant damage
And that's why we use it to shoot each other. LOL

Still way better than Chinese airsoft law.
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Old December 19th, 2013, 14:43   #14
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How about everyone just appreciate the fact you can import guns yourself now and not have to pay $900 for a G&P M4?
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