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Old July 16th, 2013, 00:24   #1
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SO confused about batteries...

So I'm looking to buy a gun but I have no bloody clue what all these different connectors are and which one the gun I want has (it doesn't say). I've seen standard deans, mini deans, tamiya mini, ect.... do they all work on any gun?

Also I have no bloody Idea what battery will fit in this gun

It's the King Arms M4 Tanker on toronto airsoft website.

If someone could please help me find a battery that would fit in this gun/work in it, it would be much appreciated. Here are some pics I found of the stock where the battery goes.

(I cant find the battery in the pic on torontoairsoft.com)

Also I know some LiPo might fit not sure which one though cause all the damn connectors. Please help me figure this out I'm so confused and new to airsoft.

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Would much prefer if batteries listed are from torontoairsoft.com

Also if possible would rather not use a LiPo
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Old July 16th, 2013, 00:42   #2
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Also if possible would rather not use a LiPo
Why not?

Also, it is against the rules of this forum, to post links to airsoft guns outside of the 18+ section. I suggest you to replace the links by the name of the rifle. This may seem stupid and/or counter-intuitive, but that's the way it is.

Now, to answer your question. The battery usually goes in the buffer tube and/or in the stock. I "think" it's called a stick battery, because of the form it has. You need a battery will fit there. I'm not an expert on this field, but google seems to find good result with the terms "airsoft buffer tube battery" or "airsoft stock battery".
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Old July 16th, 2013, 01:04   #3
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Why not?

Also, it is against the rules of this forum, to post links to airsoft guns outside of the 18+ section. I suggest you to replace the links by the name of the rifle. This may seem stupid and/or counter-intuitive, but that's the way it is.

Now, to answer your question. The battery usually goes in the buffer tube and/or in the stock. I "think" it's called a stick battery, because of the form it has. You need a battery will fit there. I'm not an expert on this field, but google seems to find good result with the terms "airsoft buffer tube battery" or "airsoft stock battery".
It's because they seem like a pain in the ass you have watch them, buy a bag, a special charger, they can start fires (more easily than others), explode. Overall just overly complicated for a battery IMO. So that's why I would prefer a NiMH battery. Could you please help me find one on the website that would work with it? Because I don't understand airsoft tech at all... I looked everywhere (with my tiny airsoft knowledge) but am unsure what battery to get because, I don't want to get the wrong one for my gun.

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Old July 16th, 2013, 01:09   #4
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In 7 years, I've personally SEEN no less than 4 NiMH batteries catch on fire, one of them burn someone, one of them ruin a gun.
And I've only HEARD of 2 LiPos actually catching on fire, being used by people who should not have been using them lol
Really it's not such a pain, and the smart charger you use for LiPo is the same one we recommend for NiMH batteries. They're really quite tough.

http://airsoftcanada.com/showthread.php?t=99899
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Old July 16th, 2013, 01:22   #5
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I've left my lipos overnight in my smart charger and they are fine. Been using the same batteries from hobbyking for over a year now.
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Old July 16th, 2013, 01:31   #6
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It's because they seem like a pain in the ass you have watch them, buy a bag, a special charger, they can start fires (more easily than others), explode. Overall just overly complicated for a battery IMO. So that's why I would prefer a NiMH battery. Could you please help me find one on the website that would work with it? Because I don't understand airsoft tech at all... I looked everywhere (with my tiny airsoft knowledge) but am unsure what battery to get because, I don't want to get the wrong one for my gun.

Thanks
You will need a smart charger for your battery whether it is NiMH or Lipo, it is extremely highly recommended that you never charge a battery with the charger that comes with the gun, those chargers tend to destroy batteries very quickly. I personally have an IMAX B6AC Pro smart charger and I would recommend it (or the non-pro version) to anyone in a heartbeat. It is a bit expensive but it is well worth the price.
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Old July 16th, 2013, 01:38   #7
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Yeah, it doesn't even come with a charger. But I know to buy a smart charger regardless, I just want to find a compatible battery with the king arms M4 Tanker that's on toronto airsoft.
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Old July 16th, 2013, 10:06   #8
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Just PM'd you with the answer but I'll post it here for the record
9.6v 1600mah NiMH nunchuk battery
http://eliteairsoftbatteries.com/pro...mall-type.aspx
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Old July 16th, 2013, 11:31   #9
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As answered above, LiPo, when charged with an adequate charger (I own the Imax BAC mentioned above) are safe. The ONLY real risk they have compared to NiMH is that you can over discharge them, thus killing the battery (not setting it on fire, just killing it). To prevent that, you can run an alarm, voltage-check them once in a while or just stop firing when the rate of fire drops.

To answer your question about connectors: All battery work on every gun, but they use different connectors. Tamiya and Mini-Tamiya is the standard in the Airsoft world. They are the white-creamy connector that you can see on every airsoft battery.

We use RC technology for our batteries and connectors, but we are late on them. They developed a superior connector called Deans, and we are slowly catching to it. If you want to use it, you can simply cut the existing connector and solder a new one to the wires.

I'm not suggesting you must do this, but it is to explain my point that the connector alone doesn't define the battery.

Also, we really are late, when the RC world considers Deans connector to be old technology, and we still didn't adopted it worldwide.
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Old July 17th, 2013, 21:20   #10
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Lipos and deans is what you need! And a 7.4v (like 8.4v nimh) in ur stock is all you need!

Lipos are safe I used to use them in RC racing! I lost count the times my Nimh race cells exploded, once one almost shot of the pit table shelf in to my face! Never had an issue with a lipo! They are light, hold charge for months, unlike Nimh that discharge a few % a day, they can be repeaked at any point and don't require a full discharge! Where as Nimh although they don't see a memory effect after being fully cycled if u just keep repeaking wih out a full discharge your voltage will drop so as an example an 8.4v could drop to 7.4! Also lipos last a lot lot longer before degrading, you get way less charges out of Nimh!

With out the right equipment (I had about a $1000 worth) its hard to keep Nimh in good health! Go lipo!

Deans are old tech in rc, as when we used Nimh we just soldered the packs on each time as that way we limited power loss through the connectors! Then when lipos came in we moved to banana plugs (gold type) or deans! Now in racing direct soldering and using no connector gave you a tenth maybe off your lap! In Airsoft they are no advantages to trying to remove or improve your connectors above standard deans that is! (dump the tamiya)

So lipos and deans! Better and more cost effective in the long run!
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Old July 17th, 2013, 21:26   #11
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Oh also forgot to mention the discharge rate of a lipo is less when in use! As an example I had A 6cell Profssionally match 5000mah Nimh pack and would get a 5min run with them in a touring car! With a lipo at 3800mah I would get 8-9mins with 1200mah less! (yes small run times but the motors we ran sucked a hell of allot more juice than an Airsoft motor!

Also Toronto Airsoft have 7.4 lipos that will work in that rifle! Just pick one up!

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Old July 17th, 2013, 21:51   #12
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We've been using deans for no less than 6 years now, but the companies making airsoft batteries and guns are all chinese and think it's worth saving the few cents to put small tamiya connectors on everything.
G&P crane stock batteries come stock with deans plugs, but they're the really shitty black ones.
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Old July 18th, 2013, 18:38   #13
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hobbyking.com for all your battery needs.
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