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Old May 30th, 2013, 11:43   #91
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Agreed. The video is too shitty to make a definitive call on non-called hits, but the one thing that stands out is that they're fucking assholes.
Yup!

Right at 1m22s of the vid: "We'll keep a slow pace, try to keep up with the command net. They're idiots so it's gonna be you know pretty much no help."

Pretty much says everything of that team.

Douchabag leader makes for a douchebag team.
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Yup!

Right at 1m22s of the vid: "We'll keep a slow pace, try to keep up with the command net. They're idiots so it's gonna be you know pretty much no help."

Pretty much says everything of that team.

Douchabag leader makes for a douchebag team.

I dunno whom the commanders were so I can't say if the idiot comment was warranted or not :P

But listening to the general narration of the guys in the video and their overall attitude, screams assholes. A perfect example is the broken window: they complain they were rebuked for breaking a window in a building scheduled to be demolished; so basically they decided to ignore the rules and do what they want because they felt the situation allowed them to. That's the bottom line right there.
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Old May 30th, 2013, 12:41   #95
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I dunno whom the commanders were so I can't say if the idiot comment was warranted or not :P
I always say: If you think you can do the job better then do it or stop complaining and follow orders.
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I always say: If you think you can do the job better then do it or stop complaining and follow orders.
Just because I don't want to be a trash collector doesn't mean I can't identify that the garbageman spilling trash onto the street and forgetting to pick up some of the bags is doing a bad job.

Or more to the point, I'm neither a car designer nor an automotive engineer but I can tell a shitty car when I drive one. "Shut up and drive it anyway" is a terribly anti-progressive attitude. Specially for something you're paying for.

So point in case, its possible the leadership did suck, and he's entitled to express his opinion if it did. Its also possible the GMR guy was just being a dickhead. But the topic at hand isn't the leadership at whatever event that video was taken: its that their [GMR's] general attitude is asshole-ish.
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there's more and more accounts of this past weekend's game where gmr was off doing stupid shit that they weren't supposed to be doing, IE clearing buildings already cleared and known to be cleared outside the area of operation to make themselves look cool, and when asked to rejoin the rest of the force, the command staff were told to fuck off. In this case, it was Col McKnight they told basically to shove it.

Also from this game were accounts from players that none of the gmr players were calling hits when they breached rooms. Not calling something in the heat of a moment is one thing, to consistently do it game after game and have multiple players from all over the US say they're not calling hits is more than just coincidence.

Not to mention personal accounts of people here of gmr players being asshats at previous games.
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Just because I don't want to be a trash collector doesn't mean I can't identify that the garbageman spilling trash onto the street and forgetting to pick up some of the bags is doing a bad job.

Or more to the point, I'm neither a car designer nor an automotive engineer but I can tell a shitty car when I drive one. "Shut up and drive it anyway" is a terribly anti-progressive attitude. Specially for something you're paying for.

So point in case, its possible the leadership did suck, and he's entitled to express his opinion if it did. Its also possible the GMR guy was just being a dickhead. But the topic at hand isn't the leadership at whatever event that video was taken: its that their [GMR's] general attitude is asshole-ish.
But if you add that remark in the video to the accounts that they told command and futher on Mcknight himself to fuck off...That pretty much covers their ego...
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And they will get the leadership they deserve.
Yeah but a good leader will kick them out or train them properly. If you're leader's shit then the team follows through

The berry bushes for example
A couple good guys on that team, but a horrible leader who actually instructed them to cheat.
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Airsoft is a tough place for leadership. I see way to many people rise to the top solely based on the size of their mouth. Eventually they wind up in a situation where being a blowhard isn't a tactical advantage and it all falls apart.

They're never humble enough to admit what they did wrong. Instead they blame the other team, the rules, the admin, the weather and they keep on running off.

For airsoft leadership the very first step is example. If you don't have that down to a T then time is running out faster than you think.
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But if you add that remark in the video to the accounts that they told command and futher on Mcknight himself to fuck off...That pretty much covers their ego...
Yeah but that video is from 2012, way before the most recent ban.
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To their defense: Video is poor representation of noncalling of hits. With the amount of gear on, it can be hard/impossible to feel hits, and in a firefight, harder still to hear the hits.

This is the #1 reason I don't advocate plates or plate carriers in game.

So much of this shit happens it isn't funny.


> mfw people claim they can't hear/feel shit hitting their gear. 99% of hits to gear are obvious. I don't buy this excuse at all.
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Yeah but that video is from 2012, way before the most recent ban.
But it probably weighted alot in the balance though.
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