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Old March 19th, 2013, 13:52   #1
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support weapon

after a little bit of gaming, a lot of reading and video watching I realize I will never be a sniper. I am not the most accurate shooter, and being big and tall I figured I might be best suited for support weapon.

So, I guess, what I should be looking for is a weapon with very high rof, enormous charger, easy battery change, reinforced gearbox.
Am-i forgetting something?
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Old March 19th, 2013, 14:08   #2
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i dont know about you but carrying around a heavy gun for 5-6 hours (longer if its a milsim op) doesnt sound to pleasing to me.
Im 6'6 220lbs and run an M16/FNC
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Old March 19th, 2013, 14:09   #3
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In most games you need an actual support weapon (ie a gun thats a support weapon in real life, M249, M60, RPK, etc versus an M16 or AK47 with a drum mag) to be able to use it as a support gun; this is especially true here (Montreal/Quebec area) with real cap games becoming increasingly popular.

So what you're looking for is a support gun, which narrows down the search a lot. Just about all of them come with a box mag, that will hold 1000-3000 BBs and usually have some kind of motor -driven feeding mechanism. As with most AEGs, RoF will mostly be a function of your battery size. You may want to look into adding a MOSFET to your setup (for several reasons). Most support weapons come with a gearbox that can stand up to the function.

It comes down to what you like, how much you're looking to spend and how much work you want to put into it (some setups will require some converting, like some RPKs or an MG36).



And in response to Dustin's comment: I've carried an M249 for 10 hrs or so during a milsim. It IS heavy and tiring, but so's an M4 w/M203 etc. Honestly, in the heat with gear on, after a while anything gets heavy. Get a good sling. For me, the most annoying thing by far about LMGs is the box mags, which are big noisy maracas (specially when doing recon style stuff, which is what we do).
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Old March 19th, 2013, 14:23   #4
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You don't need a reinforced gearbox.
And G&P 249 is hands down the single best AEG LMG on the market
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Old March 19th, 2013, 14:28   #5
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One of the game I played is not even sure if the rpk is cumbersome enough to be consider a ''support weapon''.
The budget is low but I am ready (and able) to do a lot of stuff. I was event considering a complete build. Something like http://acepilots.com/ww2/m1919a4.jpg
or this http://esensja.pl/magazyn/2001/07/img/ilustr/16_01c.jpg
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Old March 19th, 2013, 14:43   #6
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If your budget is low you mite look into an AK full stock to fit a large battery and a drum mag to use as a ''support weapon''.
It has V3 gear box so its strong to take an upgrade spring plus good range and plenty of ammo & power with the large battery.
Just find a brand of AK that is 99.99% TM compatible so part's are easy to find to upgrade or repair it.

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Old March 19th, 2013, 14:46   #7
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You want an M56A2 or M59B Smart Gun....not an RPK

Don't sweat the really high ROF stuff...you'll just break/wear stuff out. Narrow down more (in reality terms) what model you want. 249/M60/M46/Stoner/RPK/L85something/etc...
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Old March 19th, 2013, 15:04   #8
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Yan, since you're in the Montreal area another factor to consider is do you have any interest in/plan on attending stuff like Vietnam and/or WW2 games (mostly around Quebec City but still)? Cuz then you'd be looking at some very specific models if you want to use them at those games.

Or for example, an M60VN can be used both at a Vietnam game and a more modern themed game, in addition to general games/skirmishes.
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Old March 19th, 2013, 16:55   #9
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You want an M56A2 or M59B Smart Gun....not an RPK

Don't sweat the really high ROF stuff...you'll just break/wear stuff out. Narrow down more (in reality terms) what model you want. 249/M60/M46/Stoner/RPK/L85something/etc...
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Yan, since you're in the Montreal area another factor to consider is do you have any interest in/plan on attending stuff like Vietnam and/or WW2 games (mostly around Quebec City but still)? Cuz then you'd be looking at some very specific models if you want to use them at those games.

Or for example, an M60VN can be used both at a Vietnam game and a more modern themed game, in addition to general games/skirmishes.
I plan on, mostly, plays syfy and post-apo game.
I don't have the gear to plays a historically accurate game of WW2 or vietnam (for the momment anyways)
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Old March 19th, 2013, 17:03   #10
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I normally rock a M249 during the summer season and I love them ignore people saying its cumbersome and all that BS not cumbersome at all. Only draw to it is when you're playing long full day games, your arms get tired from hold the damn thing the whole day.

You can easily pick up a A&K M249 relatively cheap in canada. Not gonna list the price but lets just say cheap. They aint the best internally but its all V2 gearbox parts even uses a M4/M16 length nozzle. So replacement parts are plentiful, my old one I used last year was rocking full Modify internals. Threw in a lipo and some hi-speed gears shot about 30-35 bb's a second, shot so fast box mag couldn't keep up. Until I stripped the piston....
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Old March 19th, 2013, 17:07   #11
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Yep what everyone else said lol.
Choose a real support gun and a bigh rof isnt really something a support gunner needs you just need a moderate rate of fire so you dont blow through all your ammo to fast think " pop pop pop pop pop" not "brrrrraaaappppp" 15-20rps is more then adequate. ie a stock rate of fire.
Also a tip try to mix yer bbs (set yer hop up with 28's) and mix 25 28 and 30 thayll give you a bit of a spread on your rounds in full auto
Also lol at minigun id argue its not worth the 5grand or so price tag.
Cool as frak tho lol
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Old March 19th, 2013, 17:08   #12
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I personally like the look of the of the Stoner (96) LMG. With a couple of rail covers, looks recent enough for me, and I am a person inclined to futuristic weaponry.



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Old March 19th, 2013, 17:13   #13
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The A&K 249 is a good testing the waters step into support guns. Pretty well 100% reliable, commonly available and good knowledge base about running them.

The more out there choices like a MG42 or Minigun are going to set you back 3-6K or so on a good day. The only G&P 249 I've seen for sale on here in the last five years had a cracked body so it was not desirable. If you want to spend a bit more you can get the slightly nicer Classic Army version that the A&K was copied from.

The only downside I've found is that you do run through more ammo than if you had a rifle. That may not be an issue for you.

The best way to buy is to first of all hit a few games up and see one in action so you can decide for sure. While you're doing that start saving up and watching the classifieds on here for a good deal. It's spring and for sale ads will be popping up soon.
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Old March 19th, 2013, 17:26   #14
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i dont know about you but carrying around a heavy gun for 5-6 hours (longer if its a milsim op) doesnt sound to pleasing to me.
Im 6'6 220lbs and run an M16/FNC
I am also doing medieval fighting. I used to carry a 10 pound wooden shield all days and in full gear. I am 6'3'' 260lbs (if I loose 20, I should be able to carry at least that much in extra )
I did try a smaller gun (I have g36c) and end-up doing mostly suppressing fire for my team (was a friendly game, no specific role at first).

I'll keep my eye open for the classified.

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Old March 19th, 2013, 17:46   #15
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Big dudes....

If you're going all future-fantasy land..You might want to take a look at some of the builds a guy in the UK (or US?) did. I think he was called Candyman. He used 249 mechboxes and PVC piping I think.

Let me look

Not him...but neat stuff...http://www.ukmonsters.co.uk/oldmadwe...ics/wa2000.htm

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This is the guy...he's built some pretty wild stuff and has plans posted for public consumption. I don't think he has kits...I know lots of guys were asking for them long ago.
http://www.air-sharp.com/freeminipattern.html

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