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Old August 12th, 2005, 11:38   #16
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Ya most of the CQB gaming I been to was like a game of hide and seek everyone just screaming mercy mercy when they saw even a bit of the person pass by a an opening or something. So far my CQB experiences have been pretty lame I especially like seeing people who shoot, miss, then yell out mercy. Hopefully that TTAC3 thing will be good.
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Old August 12th, 2005, 11:41   #17
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In Ottawa at the LZ we regularly do CQB and there's a killhouse set up for it. The best advise I can give you is to not volunteer to be a hostage.

Lots of fun. Although it is a shame that the element of surprise can't ever be really replicated, but what can you do?
I shot Boba when we played on that freight ship (PQAC - OP: Cloak Shark), thank god for Protec's because i'd have knocked myself out. Ship passages are unbelievably tight. The engine room shootout's were cool. Probably the best CQB since the abandoned 1900's monastary back in the 80's. (Cote de Liesse and 40 - demolished in 1995 aprox.)

http://www.pbase.com/pqac01/op_cloak_shark
I'm jealous =(.
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Old August 12th, 2005, 11:51   #18
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Talking Jealous Doesn't Cover It

Damn!

Where did you get access to a ship like that. Looks like it actually in service?

I know, I'll search it!

Cleaning up must have been some serious vacuum time!
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Old August 12th, 2005, 13:20   #19
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No mercy

At TTAC3 there will be ***no mercy*** rules
In their place will be "surrender" rules.

Training will focus on learning to shoot to center of body mass, and full auto fire will be restricted.

Any one has the right to surrender at any time if they feel the action getting too hot.

I agree that it will be higher risk.. but it will also be more realistic.

I have been "stitched up" the face with full auto it stung but with weapons firing at or around 300 fps it is not too bad. Hurts less than wrestling to submission.
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Old August 12th, 2005, 13:52   #20
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Damn!

Where did you get access to a ship like that. Looks like it actually in service?

I know, I'll search it!

Cleaning up must have been some serious vacuum time!
The ship is considered a 'river freight' class, so basically a ship that's a low keel for service on the St. Laurence. I would say it was about 1/2 the size of the ocean freight ships, but it was still longer than a football field. There was about,...5, 6 decks accessable to us, so with the 20 or so players there, PLENTY places to hide. The engine room had access to ALL levels, by design, and was the hardest to manouver because there are angles all over. Pistols rule in these sort of places. I got to say MP5's require the LEAST thinking when using and reloading in high stress situations. What a great tool to use.

Since it was all stock guns only and most all of the walls and doors are metal, damage was minimal. Clean up was easy so I am told. The biggest danger to these PQAC night games for all of the Ottawa crews is the late night drive home. I had Boba worried there with my head bobbing at 5am - hehehe, safe and sound eh, mate? Others were not so lucky - Moose have claimed 2 cars so far. Seriously crazy driving stories. Everyone was ok (save for the Moose), thankfully.
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Old August 12th, 2005, 14:21   #21
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Question Hoping For Another

At the risk of hijacking the thread... ops:

Man, would I every like to pop my CQB cherry on an operation like that.

Any chance of getting that ship again?
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Old August 14th, 2005, 21:40   #22
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I've only played one game of CQB, it was a small place and it was quite dark, I rented an AUG and I don't think I hit anyone, but it was incredibly fun.

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At TTAC3 there will be ***no mercy*** rules
In their place will be "surrender" rules.

Training will focus on learning to shoot to center of body mass, and full auto fire will be restricted.

Any one has the right to surrender at any time if they feel the action getting too hot.

I agree that it will be higher risk.. but it will also be more realistic.

I have been "stitched up" the face with full auto it stung but with weapons firing at or around 300 fps it is not too bad. Hurts less than wrestling to submission.
Your rules are valid; people need to quit pissing and moaning. If people wore the apropriate gear in CQB, we wouldnt have the problems we do now. Every CQB game I go to, people snivel about face shots and bleeders in the arms... Yet they never want to take responsiblity for not gearing up properly for such an event.
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Old August 18th, 2005, 13:54   #24
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In Ottawa at the LZ we regularly do CQB and there's a killhouse set up for it. The best advise I can give you is to not volunteer to be a hostage.

Lots of fun. Although it is a shame that the element of surprise can't ever be really replicated, but what can you do?
Hehehe, I've actually have a great shot of you as a hostage. The killhouse is a blast, tons of fun. We actually planning on having a small town and street built up so we have more cover to make more of an urban setting.

But you have to be ready to take a hit. At the LZ we have a stock gun only rule, but you still get a few bleeders here and there.



Poncho, that ship was amazing!! I can't wait to do something like that again!
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Old August 18th, 2005, 14:44   #25
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Breaching Drills

I have been kicking around an Idea to practice door breaching with a shotgun.

here is the plan, Make a door frame, and then make a door out of SM foam sheet that friction fits in the frame.

then you can practice doing lock breaches or hinge breaches using a shotgun.

2shots at the lock area .. then kick the door in. or 2 shots to each hinge location and kick it in.

Just an idea... gotta test it, besides I need an excuse to get a shotgun.
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Old August 18th, 2005, 15:24   #26
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I wish Airsoft shotguns were that powerful at a price we could afford - the only lethal one that is as capable as that would be MadMax/Carl's sweet Remmy...
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Old August 23rd, 2005, 17:18   #27
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At flag raiders is it the host's rule, or does flag raiders make the mercy rule a must?
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Old August 23rd, 2005, 17:31   #28
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Shotgun wouldn't work, unless you were throwing some big 8mm.

I think a barrage of aeg fire should take down a door pretty quick.

Maybe a hi-powered 40mm shell. Madbull has some co2 powered shells coming out. A good shot with a rubber warhead might work.
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Old August 23rd, 2005, 20:40   #29
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Shotgun wouldn't work, unless you were throwing some big 8mm.

I think a barrage of aeg fire should take down a door pretty quick.

Maybe a hi-powered 40mm shell. Madbull has some co2 powered shells coming out. A good shot with a rubber warhead might work.
the idea would not be to "take down" the door with bbs, but to practice the breeching drills.

you could do lock breeches... and hinge breeches.
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Old August 23rd, 2005, 20:44   #30
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For those who missed it, the idea is the shotgun takes care of the lock or hinges, and then you kick it down...
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