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Old February 6th, 2013, 14:21   #1
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sniper rifle Banana

i know much about it but i want to try it in the field and i want to know what is the best one for a noobie like me . the rifle need to be reliable and under 400 fps so i can play in/outside with no certification at all can be spring or gas i dont care and need advise for a good starter kit scope/rifle

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Old February 6th, 2013, 14:44   #2
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tm vsr 10 280fps out of the box verry reliable and accurate.
tho itll be nearly useless indoors and even more useless outdoors as every aeg on the field will out shoot you in range.
next option would be a JG or Echo1 BAR 10 but then youll need to swap ot tue sping for a softer one to hit 400fps then change the piston and sears and then it will still be useless indoors for the most part. U will get overrun quickly and get owned. Bolt action guns are not practical indoors. a spring shotgun would be more practical but for the most part youd be beter with a gas semi auto shotgun for inside at least youd he able to hold yer own with that.
just build up a 450 fps bolt action for outdoors you can use that effectively.
start witu a bar10 $200
a piston $80-$100
cylender $125-$150
sears $50
hop up chamber $100-150
inner barel $75-150
hop rubber $10-30
a spring $30-50
a spring guide $20-30

that would be your cheapest option for a useable bolt action
i recomend laylax PSS10 parts any set of steel sears are fine
and the best barrel you can get promy or edgi somethin along those line.
good luck!
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Old February 6th, 2013, 14:49   #3
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yeah that seem excellent but ennyway indoor in not a obligation i prefer make a outdoor sniper that can take 430-450fps like a l96 or something in that range because i dont got the acreditation to have a sniper in the 500ish fps so it need to be not too expensive and reliable and dont forget im a tall guys and a little bit fat hehe

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Old February 6th, 2013, 15:00   #4
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And you can get one more easily than before.

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Old February 6th, 2013, 15:03   #5
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l96 will take the same upgrades just they are pss96 from laylax

sniper rifles are relativly cheap 150-300 for a decent clone like an echo1 or JG it will probaby shoot too hot out of the box 480-500 and will likely last for two or three mags befor tue sears or piston wear out/break and need replacing. Once you start swapping the sears if the piston didnt fail then it will soon after if its the piston that fails then the sears will fail soon after. U can most times get away without swapping the cylender or cylender head right away. But all the other stuff will he needed to kake a reliable and accurate platform.
otherwise your better off just runin an m4 or ak youll just be out gunned by most the guns on the field even mp5k with its pistop length barrel.
trust me i have got over 1000 bucks into my vsr and cause i used a crappy cpone (a tsd) i still need to buy a tm or jg or echo1 to put all my parts in to kake it more consistant. Dont get me wrong its gameable but 1 outta three shots pulls way left for no reason other then tolerances in my base gun suck so there is alot if plat between outer barrel and reciver and reciver and stock, for 7-800 you can build a useable gun oitside of that id say dont waste yer money on a gun that wont be useable against most stock aegs.
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Old February 6th, 2013, 15:12   #6
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And you can get one more easily than before.
yes you can but it will he relativly useless in a game itll be accurate as hell but youll only be usein .2 or .25 and the range will be lacking against most stock (read 350-400fps) ak's and m4's and mp5's even at 450 fps youll max use a .36 thatll run 335fps or so and will only have about tue same effective range as an aeg (125-150feet)
i run 512 fps i use .36 at 382 and .40at 361 theese are both useable and effective to well over 200 feet close to 300 on a low/no wind day with nice teps above 15° to allow for good hop up aplication.
trust me im not the authoroty on sniping but ive done it long enough (5years) at 400 450 and 500 fps to know what works and what doesnt.
a tm vsr works great in japan where all the guns shoot 280 ish but the vsr has a much beter hop up and airseal then any aeg to be verry consistant but here against 350-400fps those low velocities are useless.
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Old February 6th, 2013, 15:17   #7
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keep in mind on top of the rifle youll need a small aeg like an mp5k or one hell of a good pistol putting out 350-400fps to have with you while sniping and that will be how you get most of yer kills not with the bolt action
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Old February 6th, 2013, 15:25   #8
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no problem whit taht ive got a g36c , m249 para and a kjw hicapa dragon 6 inch barrel
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Old February 6th, 2013, 15:40   #9
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no problem whit taht ive got a g36c , m249 para and a kjw hicapa dragon 6 inch barrel
Hold on...you're gonna carry a 249 with a BA???
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Old February 6th, 2013, 15:45   #10
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no im not that stupid lol maybe my g36 just in case or just my pistol ennyway i need to find my rifle first hehe
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Old February 6th, 2013, 15:53   #11
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Hectic, what's in your rifle?
My vsr had all PDI parts, laylax 6.03 430mm barrel, and firefly rubber. I was getting out to 260-280 at a mere 430fps with .3s. I never found a reason to go past 430fps, and it had incredibly repeatable accuracy. That and .3s start losing accuracy past 440fps, didn't wanna pay big money for .36s lol
Even at 380fps it was dead accurate out to around 210ft with .28s

Have you tried using .43s at 512fps?
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Wasn't there a comic showing how bad a sniper rifle is for newbies?
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Old February 6th, 2013, 15:58   #13
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g36 is a lil big still, Icarry an M9 and a Gemtech Oasis (its nice n quiet and accurate)
On cold days or for long deplyment like <ilsim's i carry an MP5K (its as heavy as an M4 but compact enough to sling on my back without getting in the way.

Youll be better off to take a sniper course in the spring befor you jump into the sniping thing, you may find its not the thing for you. Quebec has lots of em way more then ontario, youll find a few pop up over the season. Im sure one will happen soon as the season is getting under way.
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Old February 6th, 2013, 15:59   #14
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Good springers:

- Tokyo Marui VSR or L96 / gun: $650 - $900 / upgrades: $500 - $1000

On a budget:

- Classic Army M24 / gun: $250 - $500 / upgrades: $400 - $800

This doesn't include magazines, bipod, scope, etc

You will need experience and skill to hit your targets with one, and avoid enemy detection.

You will need a bunch of proper upgrades to do the job, unless you want them to be useless against against an AEG. Sniper rifles are useless indoors, and it helps if they and you are properly camouflaged and quiet.
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Hectic, what's in your rifle?
My vsr had all PDI parts, laylax 6.03 430mm barrel, and firefly rubber. I was getting out to 260-280 at a mere 430fps with .3s. I never found a reason to go past 430fps, and it had incredibly repeatable accuracy. That and .3s start losing accuracy past 440fps, didn't wanna pay big money for .36s lol
Even at 380fps it was dead accurate out to around 210ft with .28s

Have you tried using .43s at 512fps?
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stock spring guide (couldnt find one at the time i built and havent had a need for it yet.)
stock cylender head
pss10 sp150 spring
510mm 6.03 inner barrel cant recall what brand i wanna say It was PDI or Promy but it couldda been an EDGI I know i had a hard ass time finding one
an its a TSD SD700 base (this is where most of the accuracey issue come from its still a good rifle but I need a good base gun to make it great) Im gonna buy a JG or Echo1 and put the parts in that once I find one and get my tax refund
It is prety pin point out to 250 ft or so most days with .36 or .40 sucks in the cold gotta run .30 cause the hop up is too hard in winter temps.
Never tryed heavyer then .40 tho id imagine with the fps im pushin the gun coud benifate from .43-.46 with no problem. tho it like str8 .36's the best from my testing. if i aim about 2.5 dots or half way down the bottom line on the scope i can hit a man sized tree trunk from 380-400ft and hear the twack of the bb, not verry practical in a game tho
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