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Old January 9th, 2013, 02:48   #1
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Question about krylon camo paint

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So I just painted my akm with krylon camo flat black. I now want to seal the paint job. What I'm looking for is a satin or matte finish clear coat that can help protect the paint job. Yes I do know that the gun will get scratched no matter what I put on the gun, I just want to try and keep my sexy paint job as long as possible. Anyone have any recommendation on a finish that you have used with good results? Thanks

Just another quick question, I just read the can and it says that it will be fully cured after seven days. Do I have to wait a week before spraying my finish coat? Or can I spray the finish say after 24 hours. Thanks again.
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Old January 9th, 2013, 03:16   #2
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Old January 9th, 2013, 03:33   #3
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Old January 9th, 2013, 03:57   #4
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I use Krylon matte clear coat for covering my paint jobs that I don't want to wear.
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Old January 9th, 2013, 10:19   #5
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I use Krylon matte clear coat for covering my paint jobs that I don't want to wear.
Redneck - where do you find Krylon Matte? I know they make it, but I haven't been able to find it here in Winnipeg. Everybody has Satin, but not Matte.

If anyone has used the satin, how does it look?
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Old January 9th, 2013, 10:24   #6
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what about turning it off


you'd better wait seven days if you don't want the clear coat to potentially wrinkle the paint.Also I'd put a few coats of gloss clear before a final coat of matte clear: gloss is way stronger.

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Redneck - where do you find Krylon Matte? I know they make it, but I haven't been able to find it here in Winnipeg. Everybody has Satin, but not Matte.

If anyone has used the satin, how does it look?
it looks satin: not good for guns imo
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Old January 9th, 2013, 12:51   #7
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what about turning it off


you'd better wait seven days if you don't want the clear coat to potentially wrinkle the paint.Also I'd put a few coats of gloss clear before a final coat of matte clear: gloss is way stronger.
Thanks for the advice on waiting e 7 days. The reason I went with the krylon camo paint is that it is there "ultra" flat paint. Will a couple coats of gloss then the matte turn out shiny?

as for turning off the auto correct; I'm such a technophobe that I have trouble setting my alarm clock hahaha. If i attempt it I'll probably destroy the iPad and fail at turning off the auto correct hahaha.
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Old January 9th, 2013, 13:50   #8
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yeah, of course the flat will turn shiny with the coating.
But the thing is, you're not supposed to clear coat the Krylon paint, because unless you can find 'ultra flat' coating, you will only get what the coating can give, and that should be somewhere between 'not very flat' and 'shiny'.
Flat clear coat is difficult to find in stores but if you find some, try it on something else first.
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Old January 9th, 2013, 13:55   #9
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So it's one or the other thAn. Okay; well I'm much less concerned about having a glossy ak than I am having spent all that time in prep just to have half the paint job wear off on game day. Thanks man for the help.
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Old January 9th, 2013, 13:57   #10
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krylon does make a ultra flat clear coat to go with the ultra flat cammo paint, my local crappy tire has it, not every place does tho. FYI tho if u spray 3 or 5 tlnice thin coats of krylon it is prety tough so it wont wear out/ scratch too fast and is easy to touch up when it becomes crappy looking.
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Old January 9th, 2013, 14:01   #11
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krylon does make a ultra flat clear coat to go with the ultra flat cammo paint, my local crappy tire has it, not every place does tho. FYI tho if u spray 3 or 5 tlnice thin coats of krylon it is prety tough so it wont wear out/ scratch too fast and is easy to touch up when it becomes crappy looking.
Awesome news about the krylon flat finish. And I did spray multiple thin layers of the ultra flat. I just want to make the paint job as durable as possible. Looks like the hunt is on, off to the local Canadian tire.
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Old January 9th, 2013, 15:20   #12
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but why one earth would you want a permanently new paintjob when the best-looking guns have their paint chipped to death?





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Old January 9th, 2013, 16:36   #13
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yeah, of course the flat will turn shiny with the coating.
But the thing is, you're not supposed to clear coat the Krylon paint, because unless you can find 'ultra flat' coating, you will only get what the coating can give, and that should be somewhere between 'not very flat' and 'shiny'.
Flat clear coat is difficult to find in stores but if you find some, try it on something else first.
Walmart has a flat clear coat in the bricolage section ( with all the green spounges and nic nac for frustrated housewifes doing their own little design pieces. )

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This look is achieved with dry fading.

paint the gun with the ultra flat BLACK camo paint ( the can has actually a camo pattern on the outside - available at canadian tire)
then buy higher quality acrylic silver paint ( comes in tubes - creamy consistency - available at art shops ) with a wide and soft bristle brush - dip only very little color on the brush - pass the brush on a sheet of paper couple of times up and down to dry out the paint on the brush .

then look at them nice photos Jimski posted... where does a gun wear off the color first... look at it and it that sense do you start edging with the bristle brush in very light swift strokes ( back and for ) over the edges - pertrusions - etc. to give it a realistic look. the dry color starts to show but since it is applied very dry does the black undercoat still shine trhough ... giving it that faded out - worn out look.

after that can you apply if needed the flat clear coat....

But remember - then more distance of the spray nozzle of your can - the more grain structure of the paint - means more real looking surface.
it is better to have several soft coats ( holds better ) then one or two fat - wet coats....

hope this helps

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Old January 9th, 2013, 16:44   #14
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I do agree that the beat up ak's looks sick And I sprayed a liberal amount of grey outdoor primer underneath the flat black to act as a fake parkenization. I do want it to wear out and collect some scratches, I just don't want it to look all beat up again after only a couple of games.

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I think once It does eventually fade out again a shovel mod may be in order.
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Old January 21st, 2013, 15:58   #15
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As far as the 'weathered' or well-used look goes, it doesn't matter what you paint your gun with, or how many coats of clear you put on it......if you use it in the field, it'll get plenty marked up.
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