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Old December 17th, 2012, 03:07   #1
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Airsoft collecting?

Hey, i'm quite new to this whole airsoft thing and while I know I do not have the time or money to get fully equipped in battle dress and gear and participate in events, I would like to start collecting some BB pistols and have some fun with target practice. Are people like me frowned upon in the community and will I get laughed at if I show up to just shoot? Should I just not bother at together if all i'll be doing is collecting?

By the way I am looking at this as being my starter, feel free to stop me if you think i'm making a mistake!:KWC Marakov NBB

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Old December 17th, 2012, 03:19   #2
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I don't think "collecting" will be any cheaper than getting a set of gear and play... Because if you collect, you end up with MANY guns, and to play you can go with only one... (Yes, many players end up getting many guns as well, but collectors tend to get even more...)

About that site, you should not post airsoft selling sites out side the age verified zone...

CO2 pistols are fun to shoot, but not very useful for gaming, as they usually have too high fps for field limits. There is no problem to do target practice with airsofts, but if you are just going to do target practice, 4.5mm BB pistol and air rifles are better than airsoft, as they are cheaper and more accurate, and have longer range than most airsoft guns.
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Old December 17th, 2012, 03:36   #3
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Well I think i'm just going to buy one or two and see how I like it before diving head-first into events and making commitments to teams.

So CO2 is too powerful...so as far as pistols what kinds should I look for? BB size, mechanics etc...
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Old December 17th, 2012, 04:24   #4
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for the price of a good pistol you can possibly get a AEG with battery and charger plus the magazine you would be good to go and can go shooting in the back and bring it to a field your choice .. just read / watch reviews and people here know there stuff so
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Old December 17th, 2012, 06:31   #5
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I am sort of a collector(but also game), have over a dozen rifles, I can tell you that both collecting and gaming can be equally as expensive.

I second the 4.5mm option for target shooting/plinking. I own pellet rifles/pistols and they are much more accurate and funner to shoot pop cans/targets with than airsoft guns. They can be just as expensive as airsoft guns though trust me I'm not going to name any as you arent AV'd, but an upgraded bb gun can go for as much as $900 haha.

For what you are thinking of doing, I would say start with whatever you want, if its informal, both airsoft and pellet/bb are fun, depending on your intentions
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Old December 17th, 2012, 10:53   #6
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But let me get this part straight, 4.5mm BB guns can't be used for competition if I later decide that I want to play?

For general play what FPS range do most clubs allow, for AEGs and pistols?

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Old December 17th, 2012, 11:00   #7
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BB guns and pellet guns are not airsoft. Airsoft is 6mm plastic BBs. If you're looking for pellet guns this is the wrong place.
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Old December 17th, 2012, 11:00   #8
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But let me get this part straight, 4.5mm BB guns can't be used for competition if I later decide that I want to play?

For general play what FPS range do most clubs allow, for AEGs and pistols?
fps
indoor 350
outdoor 380-400

large games
outdoor 450 fullauto i
ndoor semi auto only

No you cannot use a pellet gun for airsoft.
6mm and 8mm only
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Old December 17th, 2012, 11:40   #9
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Note that the FPS is measured using a standard .20g BB. So a gun shooting 399 FPS using .40's is not allowed but a gun shooting ~360 with .25's is allowed (about 400 using .20's).

I also recommend the 4.5mm/177 cal. pellet guns for plinking. Way more accurate, way more powerful, and way easier to get (and cheaper too).
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Old December 17th, 2012, 12:46   #10
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Awesome answers guys, last few things. Is there any real difference between blow-back and non-blowback in terms of practicality and reliability?

Also, are clubs particular on what your gear looks like? I mean does it have to be 100% modern tactical? I say this because if I wanted to get into games i'd want to get fitted in a full cold-war era Soviet BDU and accessories, lol pipedream maybe but I want to know if its allowed.

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Awesome answers guys, last few things. Is there any real difference between blow-back and non-blowback in terms of practicality and reliability?

Also, are clubs particular on what your gear looks like? I mean does it have to be 100% modern tactical? I say this because if I wanted to get into games i'd want to get fitted in a full cold-war era Soviet BDU and accessories, lol pipedream maybe but I want to know if its allowed.
Blowback AEGs are in my opinion just for show and some systems actually hurt the gun in the long run

as for looks it all depends, if its just a friendly scrimmage then usually no.
if its a more organized game then there are usually set camos.
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Old December 17th, 2012, 12:59   #12
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Awesome answers guys, last few things. Is there any real difference between blow-back and non-blowback in terms of practicality and reliability?
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If it's pistols you are talking about, NBB has less moving parts and tends to be more reliable (in relative terms and assuming same build quality) and gas-efficient. The sacrifice is realism.
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Old December 17th, 2012, 13:03   #13
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Gas Blow Back is cool, AEG Blow Back relies on the movement of the piston to produce a semblance of blow back by moving a small metal plate, it's not that great IMO. Kind of cool but if you're wanting the realism and kick get Gas Blow Back (but there are drawbacks to GBBR's).

As for games, weekly skirmishes are whatever. You could be a "PMC" with jeans and a tactical vest or whatever you wanted. On the other hand more involved games may have strict kit requirements (ie. must have radio, must stay in fireteam, etc.).

Sometimes they can be split up in terms of Tan vs Green, Digital vs Analogue, or whatever. Most daysim games are like tan vs green but multi day milsims might be more strict on kt requirements. Some games might even be a super strict reenacement with strict kit requirements (ie. a WWII or Vietnam simulation) these aren't too common and mostly are reenactor clubs who do this.
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Old December 17th, 2012, 13:16   #14
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I always wanted a real gun BUT real guns aren't any fun for me. I don't care for hunting and I want to be able to use it... and since there is an obvious lack of zombies currently I just don't see the point. Then when I found out that I could get the best of both worlds I was in. I was in but my first gun would be something I wanted not something that just does the job. It would have to look and feel good even if I didn't use it often.
So I bought mine based roughly on this order
1) Something that was cool to look at/handle
2) Quality of build, Brand, inner/outer materials
3) Level of experience, I didn't want to jump in with a GBBR maybe later but not now
4) price
500) what other people think.
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Old December 17th, 2012, 13:52   #15
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500) what other people think.
lol, point taken. But c'mon, I know no one who is into airsoft so going in alone and being wet behind the ears as I am(only ever owned 1 spring airsoft), I am expecting to be treated like a noob.
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