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Old July 20th, 2005, 15:26   #31
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Risk tolerance,

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What's the point of having hurting someone on purpose? I'm not talking about a 400fps from 20 feet. What you described is just stupid... Playing to have fun is one thing, but playing to make someone look like they just had chickenpox...
Don't assume North American airsoft is a world standard. There alot more Asian airsofters who play to their standards compared to our rather small market.
Everyone has a differing tolerance to risk, some people think that playing with waterguns is dangerous, there are some who would not step back from a friendly game with 22short ammo, with vests and helmets.

I have found in my business, (martial arts ) that the tolerance to risk covers the entire spectrum, from zero contact, to full contact, to "all in" and it can change depending on circumstances.

it does not surprise me a bit to find people in the airsoft community who balk at being hit with Hot Guns, while at the same time you have the fellows who wear their "bleeders" as a badge of honor.

It all comes down to your individual tolerance to risk and injury, everyone is different.. and it has to be balanced with your responsibilities and roles off the field.
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Old July 21st, 2005, 00:45   #32
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Hey Pare!

If you get the chance, send my props to "Major" (Luis) in 1st Recon, and an old buddy 'Allmighty'.

I kind of apologize for the response to the style you posted - one thing I guess you have to understand is that Canada completely missed the 'gas' age, and the sport as a whole in this country is only about 6 years old or so. So the styles here compared to the way our Pare's play, it's pretty easy to understand why.

I got 2 Pare's on my team who've all done it that way before, and I don't remember what my JAC's were running at because we didn't get a chrony until about 1989, when we shot the display out on the 3rd day. We were getting bleeders and welts with .12g's. Things change tho - sometimes for the better. Instead of arguing about getting hurt, we here in Canada continuously argue about petty shit on Airsoft dBoards for outlets and entertainment, usually following topics to a calendar.

Hope you get the chance to come up and come out to a game.

~ Cheers
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Old July 21st, 2005, 00:59   #33
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However, we all have to make sure that our sport stay alive. It is our duty and responsibility to others who love the sport as well to make it so. If your club or organization calls or ask for an FPS limit. Abide by it. It is there for a reason.
Now that's a true airsofter. Spoken from the heart.
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Old July 21st, 2005, 01:44   #34
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I just think it'd be nice to have a private field somewhere in which "hot guns" running at higher fps than most field limits allow could be used.
Sure I would still go to regular limited games and fields, and fully obey thier limits and riles but it'd be nice to have a break from the limits and meet up with a bunch of ppl who know what they were getting into and don't mind a little pain or putting more attention into thier playing styles to play with higher fps.

Obviously our laws do put certain limits on our guns but a field where ppl keep it a little closer to those limits if not right at them wouldn't be a bad thing in my books.

All n all in the end They play how they like to play over there and I'm sure noone is forcing them to.
I don't find it bad in any way just different.......and truthfully I wish playing games as he described wasn't something that I unfortunately missed out on due to it being a reletively new sport here like poncho said and our culture being so safety oriented (which also isn't a bad thing) our safety conciousness just might not float everyones boat.
Some ppl just don't mind and may even prefer a little added pain or "danger"

If there's any private fields out there with higher than average limits that anyone can point me towards it'd be appretiated.

I feel ripped off now. I haven't had to spoon a bb out of myself yet. :sad: ;-)
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Old July 21st, 2005, 02:34   #35
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Go! Poncho!!!~

Maybe we should go to Philippines instead? =P
*ponders*
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Old July 21st, 2005, 11:13   #36
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I see, a provision was made. But, again, keep in mind you can just swap for heavier BBs to hit under 500fps, as long as the 5.7J isn't exceeded.

And that's where the problem lies. The gun shoots at 600fps with .2's... So by legal definition of the firearms act, it's illegal. But wait! Load up .36's, and it's 470fps, it's now legal?

The "fps" is purely a soccer mom freak thing. Kinda like a top speed on a car. Should be purely based on energy.
Well no, because the weapon is "capable of" firing a projectile at over 500 fps the weapon is a firearm. It does not matter if at this particular moment it is loaded with projectiles that don't go that fast.

The law is clear in this regard.. as it deals both with the weapon and the projectile.
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Old July 21st, 2005, 12:29   #37
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By that definition, every daisy gun is then possibly a firearm.
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Why don't you two start your own thread. You could call it "Stupid Shit That's Been Argued Before"
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Old July 21st, 2005, 13:03   #39
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Brian McIlmoyle and firemachine69.

Why don't you two start your own thread. You could call it "Stupid Shit That's Been Argued Before"
Hey thats a great idea, will you moderate?
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Old July 21st, 2005, 13:26   #40
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Brian McIlmoyle and firemachine69.

Why don't you two start your own thread. You could call it "Stupid Shit That's Been Argued Before"
Hey thats a great idea, will you moderate?
LOL Hell no!
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Old August 7th, 2005, 15:27   #41
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How does having a 700 fps sniper rifle make you a better player? How does being shot by a 700 fps sniper rifle make you a better player? How does the threat of severe injury and even death make you a better player? If you ask me, i think it just makes you dumber than the average airsofter playing with safe velocities.

I really dont understand the people out there that have to experience pain to feel reward. How does masochism improve your self worth?

What ever happened to being satisfied with playing with your friends, team mates and aquaintences. I know that one of the most rewarding aspects of airsoft is effectively communicating with my team mates and executing effective plans of attack and defense. How could potential injury possibly make this hobby more rewarding?
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Old August 7th, 2005, 16:26   #42
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(3) For the purposes of sections 91 to 95, 99 to 101, 103 to 107 and 117.03 of this Act and the provisions of the Firearms Act, the following weapons are deemed not to be firearms:
(d) any other barrelled weapon, where it is proved that the weapon is not designed or adapted to discharge
(i) a shot, bullet or other projectile at a muzzle velocity exceeding 152.4 m per second or at a muzzle energy exceeding 5.7 Joules, or
(ii) a shot, bullet or other projectile that is designed or adapted to attain a velocity exceeding 152.4 m per second or an energy exceeding 5.7 Joules
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So if you exceed either limit.. it's a firearm. in Canada
You're misinterpreting. Clauses i and ii are part of subsection D. As long as EITHER i or ii is true, the weapon in point is not a firearm. Now stop shitting in the guy's thread, this is the best read I've had in weeks.
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Old December 24th, 2005, 15:04   #43
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Pare,

Anong Balita sa atin?

Nice to know the old stories...Keep the spirit ALIVE!

Ingat!
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