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Old July 12th, 2012, 20:07   #16
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I still agree with you though, some of my friends are retards when it comes to gun safety. "wouldn't it be hilarious is we took your MP5 and shot that car" one time my friend was so ignorant he took my gun and shot one of his friends and I had the cops pulled on me because it was my gun. Most minors are pretty irresponsible with guns, I wish there was a way that we could separate the dumbass' from the respectable players.
In all fairness... seems pretty irresponsible of you to give him access to said gun.
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Old July 12th, 2012, 20:08   #17
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If the retailer is who i think they are i walked away from them long ago for the above reason and several more.

When i was at Hero i was able to bring in a shit ton of customers and never once sold a gun to someone under the age of 18 or to parents buying for there snot nosed kid.

Like Ozone said if a retailer is having trouble staying afloat selling to those over 18 with the crazy high markup we pay, they need to take another look at how they run things.
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Old July 12th, 2012, 20:33   #18
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When i was working in a liquor store, the instruction was to refuse to sell booze to adults if we knew it was bought for minors.
A drink of wine at dinner with your parents is nothing wrong, it's those kids looking to get tanked and steal a car that you have to watch out for.

This same principle applies with airsoft.
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Old July 12th, 2012, 21:40   #19
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To play devils advocate... you read in the news occasionally of some kid who dies from alcohol poisioning. No one tries to blame the liquor store. Certain things, there is a understanding that if they are committed while under the proper age, lies with the individual or parent.
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Old July 12th, 2012, 21:45   #20
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^Yes, but there is very little probability that incidents like those can cause a public issue that would get alcohol completely banned or severely restricted in the country.
On the other hand, with the laws as finicky as they already are, airsoft could get axed if there is big soccer-mom uproar or whatever.
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Old July 12th, 2012, 22:14   #21
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The problem is you have you prove that the retailer has knowledge that the buyer of the airsoft gun is intentionally purchasing it as a "straw buyer". If the retailer knows that he is selling the airsoft gun to someone, that intends to pass it on to a minor, that would be an offence.

RSO Imitation Firearms Act.

But there is the wrinkle, you have to prove that the retailer knows this. Otherwise, just bad judgement.

Restriction re sale of imitation firearms

4. (1) No person shall, in the course of running a business, sell or transfer an imitation firearm to an individual unless the individual is at least 18 years of age and presents valid identification in accordance with section 5. 2000, c. 37, s. 4 (1).
Reliance on documentation

(3) A person who sells or transfers an imitation firearm to an individual on the basis of the documentation described in section 5 does not contravene subsection (1) if there is no apparent reason to doubt the authenticity of the documentation or that it was issued to the individual providing it. 2000, c. 37, s. 4 (3).
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Old July 12th, 2012, 22:17   #22
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I'm a young teen, I think that many kids are getting into airsoft by their friends and those stuff in the racks on walmart, I learned airsoft from my family's friend and that's how I knew about airsoft

I greatly understand the fact that kids can't be held responsible of their own actions, parents should not be allowing their kids to buy airsoft guns if they know that this kid will get in huge trouble, parents should make the child who wants to play Airsoft to raise their own money, it will be very unlikely that the child will be getting in trouble, it is like you earning your hard earned money and buying a car, on the way of saving you will keep learning about the things you want like airsoft and knowing more to be safe.

In the law buying airsoft guns are legal

''In Ontario, Saskatchean and British Columbia, the minimum age to purchase airsoft is 18. Children under age will be able to use firearms. Children under 8 must be supervised by someone over 18.''


For me I think that retailers should keep selling the way they are, many of you
will not agree and probably dislike this but just think, us kids are the next in line of the airsoft community so you know ease up on us.

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Old July 12th, 2012, 22:19   #23
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Make the parents read, understand and sign a paprr that lists their responsibilities and liabilities?
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Old July 12th, 2012, 22:23   #24
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Make the parents read, understand and sign a paprr that lists their responsibilities and liabilities?
Good one, like a waiver!
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I greatly understand the fact that kids can't be held responsible of their own actions, parents should not be allowing their kids to buy airsoft guns if they know that this kid will get in huge trouble,
This statement would be incorrect. Someone Under 18, but over 12 would be charged Criminally if needed.

But, if you review cases in the USA, luckily not here in Canada. There are a great number of Police Shootings, involving minors carrying an Airsoft Gun in the Public.

Just because you are a minor, does not mean you cannot be held accountable for your actions.

What are the odds of your Parents, constantly being in your immediate area, everytime you decide to use your airsoft gun. How about NEVER.
So you will be left unsupervised and to your own devices. Eventually you will get bored. That is when the terminal stupidity kick in.
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For me I think that retailers should keep selling the way they are, many of you
will not agree and probably dislike this but just think, us kids are the next in line of the airsoft community so you know ease up on us.
It ain't the ones that are waiting patiently in line that are the problem. It's the que-jumpers, who potentially are.
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Old July 12th, 2012, 22:39   #27
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Eventually you will get bored. That is when the terminal stupidity kick in.
That is very good that teens are held responsible for their actions and true that stupidity will kick in but it depends the the levels of stupidity like shooting cans in your backyard to playing in the park.
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Old July 12th, 2012, 22:42   #28
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In almost all towns and cities in Ontario, it is illegal to shoot cans or anything in your backyard. Unless you live in on Rural Route or Concession Road, odds are it is illegal.
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Old July 12th, 2012, 22:43   #29
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The police can not tell from a distance if you are holding a airsoft gun, a milsim paintball gun, a walmart airsoft gun painted black, a BB gun or a painted nerf gun.

If you point anything above that looks a firearm at the police they will use lethal force. People have been shot and killed waving a baseball bat and that does not look like a gun.

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Old July 12th, 2012, 22:54   #30
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I'm a young teen...
For me I think that retailers should keep selling the way they are, many of you will not agree and probably dislike this but just think, us kids are the next in line of the airsoft community so you know ease up on us.
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THAT right there is the problem, A sense of entitlement, kid, the world will not come to you on a silver platter no matter what mommy tells you. "hurr durr you need us we're the next generation."

No thank you we do not. I'll just get more of my Codtard friends interested and they'll take this up instead of golf. They have a lot deeper pockets than you ever will.

I can see a lot more invite only games in the future if this is the coming trend. If it's not posted, no kidtards will show up.

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