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Old May 20th, 2012, 21:02   #1
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Looking to startup

So i have a decent budget, around 400$. I already have proper clothing and eye ware so all i am worried about is buying a good gun. I have done some reading but haven't found anything yet.

What im looking for is something generic like a m4 that is reliable out of the box and preferably metal.

If someone could post a link of a reliable gun being sold in canada that would be really helpful!

and just so you are aware 400$ is the budget for the gun i have more money kicking around for ammo and extra batterys ect just looking to get a solid gun for about 400 and play from there.

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Old May 20th, 2012, 21:16   #2
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First get age verified. Then buy a King Arms M4A1 for about $330. The remaining money can be put towards a battery and charger. Then you'll just need a few bucks for more magazines.
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Old May 20th, 2012, 21:20   #3
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I highly recommend Airsoft Gear for your gear and accessory needs. Lipo battery + lipo smart charger can be had for about $50-60 from them. Batteries and chargers are on order at the moment and I was told by the staff there they'll arrive within the next 4 days or so depending on customs checking and releasing their shipment.

Gun you'll spend ~$350 for a full metal barebones King Arms M4 or if you want something a bit more you could go VFC but best price for performance for a starter is the King Arms.
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Old May 20th, 2012, 21:20   #4
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considering i registered today getting age verified is probably going to take a month however i have pmed someone nearby so that should be done soon i hope. Also where is a good online site to purchase the m4, i cant seem to find any that look reliable. Thanks for the help!
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Old May 20th, 2012, 21:30   #5
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considering i registered today getting age verified is probably going to take a month however i have pmed someone nearby so that should be done soon i hope. Also where is a good online site to purchase the m4, i cant seem to find any that look reliable. Thanks for the help!
Its great you have taken steps to get age verified. On ASC we enforce a strict 18+ limit before being given information on where to purchase guns.

AV process does not usually take a month.
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Old May 20th, 2012, 21:40   #6
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+1 for the King Arms M4A1.
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Old May 20th, 2012, 22:17   #7
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Alright well here are the specs of two different KA m4 guns i found

King Arms Blackwater BW15 Carbine Airsoft AEG Rifle 350$

Fully Licensed Blackwater Trademarks by Cybergun
Full Metal Construction
Full Metal Free Float Front End
Full Metal Rails for Tactical Accessories
Stippled TAC Grip
Tactical Stock with Storage Compartment
Magpul PTS 360rd Hi-Cap Pmag
Flip-up Front and Rear Battle Sights
Railed Flat Top Receiver perfect for optics

Length: 880mm-965mm, Adjustable
Weight: 3040g
Magazine Capacity: 360rd Hi-Capacity PMAG. Compatible with Matrix, G&G, Tokyo Marui and other similar M4 / M16 Series Airsoft AEG Magazines
Muzzle Velocity: 340~390 FPS (Measured with 0.20g BBs)
Gearbox: Ver 2 Full Metal, Fully Upgradeable
Motor: Long Type
Fire Modes: Semi/Full-Auto, Safety
Package Includes: Gun, Magazine, Manual
Battery: 9.6v Butterfly Type recommended (Battery not included)
Hopup: Yes, Adjustable

King Arms Blackwater BW15 CQB Airsoft AEG Rifle 390$

Features:
Fully Licensed Blackwater Trademarks by Cybergun
Full Metal Construction
Full Metal RIS Front End
Stippled TAC Grip
Magpul PTS MOE Stock
Magpul PTS 360rd Hi-Cap Pmag
Flip-up Front and Rear Battle Sights
Railed Flat Top Receiver perfect for optics
Included PEQ Battery Box (Battery not included)

Length: 720mm-805mm, Adjustable
Weight: 2720g
Magazine Capacity: 360rd Hi-Capacity PMAG. Compatible with Matrix, G&G, Tokyo Marui and other similar M4 / M16 Series Airsoft AEG Magazines
Muzzle Velocity: 320~350 FPS (Measured with 0.20g BBs)
Gearbox: Ver 2 Full Metal, Fully Upgradeable
Motor: Long Type
Fire Modes: Semi/Full-Auto, Safety
Package Includes: Gun, Magazine, Manual
Battery: 9.6v PEQ-15 Type recommended (Battery not included)
Hopup: Yes, Adjustable

aside from a minor price differential (40$) they both seem like great weapons. I am not sure which one would be best though, any thoughts?
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Old May 20th, 2012, 22:55   #8
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Thats sorta like asking which flavour of ice cream is better lol IF your planning on playing in CQB ( close quarter battles) more than buy the shorter barrel, If you plan on playing more woods get the long gun ( in my opinion)
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Old May 21st, 2012, 01:46   #9
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thanks for the insight i thought there could have been a good mechanical reason to get one over the other
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Old May 21st, 2012, 01:56   #10
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considering i registered today getting age verified is probably going to take a month however i have pmed someone nearby so that should be done soon i hope. Also where is a good online site to purchase the m4, i cant seem to find any that look reliable. Thanks for the help!
you could also try asking at the panther games, iv been out every weekend these past two months. just have your id on you
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Old May 21st, 2012, 01:59   #11
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As for the longer length vs shorter not necessarily.....

Generally longer barrel (holding all else equal) is better I'm not going to argue that but it's minor at the end of the day. Pick something that's a "good size" for you. If you're a big 6'4" rugby player a small CQB-R is going to feel like a toy in your hands, conversely if you're a scrawny 5'6" guy a full sized M16 with a fixed A1 buttstock is going to be generally unwieldly.

Also hop up considerations make more of a difference than barrel length. You could have a 550mm barrel but with a crappy stock bucking and chamber it's not going to out range a stock TM MP5 with say a prommy bucking and neo chamber.

EDIT: Also, if you're in the Richmond area. At Airsoft Gear, Optix the owner will take down your AV info for you if you want to get AV'ed there and you can check out their cool toys as well. Or just show up to a game, I think your local crew will be Central Island Airsoft (seems like the forum is defunct but I believe they organize their games on Facebook now or something?)
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Old May 21st, 2012, 02:16   #12
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oops i read the location too quick. for some reason i just saw the c and thought Coquitlam.
yeah panther might be a bit of a trip. disregard my input
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Old May 21st, 2012, 02:17   #13
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Internally (mechanically) both of those guns should be identical (King Arms version 2 gearbox and parts). The only real differences are the externals. The CQB version being better for tight quarters and the carbine version being more of a multi role weapon. The Carbine length weapon is a hybrid in between a full length battle rifle (M16 for use in long distance engagements) and a shorter barrelled weapon good for CQB combat. The idea is that the carbine is good for both applications but doesn't excel at either.

The other main difference is that the CQB version has no onboard battery storage, it's "wired to the front" and will require you to use a peq box to conceal the battery. The carbine version is "wired to the rear" and will allow you to stow your battery in the butt stock.

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Old May 21st, 2012, 02:27   #14
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thanks for the advice. Also ill try getting in contact with Central island airsoft too
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