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Old October 8th, 2011, 14:52   #31
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if starts shooing at you and you can't see them... that's when you take out you ir immiter and shine it at thier face.. now your natural night vision is still unharmed, and they're nvg's are useless!
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Old October 8th, 2011, 15:05   #32
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if starts shooing at you and you can't see them... that's when you take out you ir immiter and shine it at thier face.. now your natural night vision is still unharmed, and they're nvg's are useless!
I think some NVGs are unharmed by IR light
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Old October 8th, 2011, 15:51   #33
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I've personally had the chance to compare gen1, 2 and 3 side by side
You can get away with using gen2, it's pretty awesome and WAY better than gen1. But gen3 does absolutely blow everything out of the water.
But if you're getting gen1, get yukon. They're tubes have no noise and are clearer than most gen 2.
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Old October 8th, 2011, 16:47   #34
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N-Vision GT14 Generation 3 Monocular
Price : $2,799.00
http://www.tacticalairsoftsupply.com...le-scopes.html
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Old October 8th, 2011, 16:56   #35
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Hell at $300 a Vietnam era cascade starlight scope (around gen 2 performance) is out of reach.

$600 and a passive night vision device
I contacted them earlier this year as I wanted a refurbished PVS-2 starlight scope for my WE M14. Got some wierd B.S. email back from them about not having anything in stock for NVGs but if I had a IR laser or beacons then a trade could be arranged?
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Old October 8th, 2011, 17:18   #36
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if starts shooing at you and you can't see them... that's when you take out you ir immiter and shine it at thier face.. now your natural night vision is still unharmed, and they're nvg's are useless!

It's no different from using a visible flashlight at night games. You can see the light, but not anything behind it.
However it's worth stating that it's actually dangerous to use high powered IR lights at games. Just because you don't SEE the IR light, doesn't mean it's not damaging your eyes. Same goes for IR lasers.
It's happened to me working on an M75 APC. Somebody was testing the IR lights while I was working on a headlight. Seans flips them on and asks if it works, I ask "why does it suddenly feel like I was looking at the sun?"
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Old October 8th, 2011, 17:27   #37
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N-Vision GT14 Generation 3 Monocular
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You are aware that they're located in Utah, yes?

They likely won't risk shipping a gen 3 anything for fear of ITAR.
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Old October 8th, 2011, 17:35   #38
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You are aware that they're located in Utah, yes?

They likely won't risk shipping a gen 3 anything for fear of ITAR.
thats gen 4
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Old October 8th, 2011, 17:39   #39
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I've owned 7 Night vision devices and have used 6 of them for Airsoft.

From Gen 1 handhelds and weapon scopes to gen 3 Monoculars, to tier 1 pinnacle NSW gen 3 binoculars. I was working on a write up for this, but unfortunately hit the wrong button and deleted it. So I'll keep this real simple, concise, and hopefully it will aid some of you future NV Device users with your first purchase.






Night vision In Airsoft


First things first, prepare for it to get broken. You can bring NVG's out to games and protect certain ones with Sacrificial lenses, or other custom shields, but at the end of the day(or night in this instance) there is a risk of you damaging your new expensive toy.

Now with that out of the way, lets talk some money.

I don't have a lot of money, what should I buy?
$700-$1000


The best "bang for your buck" NV Device for the average Airsoft user is a Gen 1-2 Hunting scope. Obviously the heavy contribution here is the price. There is no requirement to sell your soul to the devil in order to get out there with a green eye. Prices will very depending on model/design, what you should recognize right away is that companies like Yukon, and ATN do not make the image intensifier tubes, they simply build the enclosures and put the unit together. While Yukon appears to have good quality control on their tubes, keep in mind there are dozens of other companies out there building NV equipment pulling from the same stock of tubes. With scopes like this you can count on a nice large objective lens that will let quite a bit of light in, and typically these units will have adjustable magnification, reticle with can be zeroed, and good battery life.

Also keep in mind, NVG mounting solutions can get expensive, with a rifle mounted NV scope - you don't need one.

I have a bit more money, what should I buy?
$1000-$1500


To be honest, I have yet to find anything good in the 1000-1500 dollar price range. You're better off spending less to get an NV scope for airsoft at this point, or more to get a good monocular optic

I saved up some money, what should I buy?
$2000-$2500


With this budget for airsoft, you can now safely enter the realm of Gen 2-3 Nightvision monocular's, allowing you to become the light weight night stalker you sought out to be when you decided to dump $2500.00 out of your wallet on a toy. The following websites have some wonderful Generation 2/3 equivalent units sold right here in Canada:

http://www.alphaopticsinc.com/pdf_print/AC-1254.pdf
http://www.alphaopticsinc.com
http://doubletaptactical.ca/Night-Vi...-Tube-p72.html

Do you need it? Probably not.. Do you want it? Who doesn't. Over the past 2-3 years, the growing trend in Ontario has been 24hr games, and overnight airsoft skirmishes, so if you're worried about your investment going to waste.. don't be.

I begged my wife to increase my toy budget a bit, what should I buy?
$3000+


If you bought a AN/PVS-14, or something along those lines - good for you. Unfortunately items like this are milspec USA made ITT Generation 3 tube NVG's and are very illegal to export from the USA (Once in Canada they are Legal to own). If you happen to get one, keep in mind that the mounting solutions for these units can be very expensive and equally difficult to source. Not to mention, you will be unable to claim any warranty on your unit as any warranty repairs (if you had a warranty) will need to take place in the USA. So for airsoft, you really really need to ask yourself "Is this worth the risk"






So to recap:
Cheapy NVG's to get you started: NV Riflescopes

More expensive NVG's to help you fight at night: Canadian bought/locally serviceable NV Monodculars

Hopefully this bit of info will help people make their purchases, I'll post up a more detailed thread later.

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Old October 8th, 2011, 17:43   #40
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thats gen 4
There is no "Gen 4"

The only generations of nightvision (Set by ITT, because it's their wording and solution) are Generation 1, Generation 2, Generation 3

Generation 3 Autogated Omni 7 would be the "Generation 4"

However they have not named the technologies as such.

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Old October 9th, 2011, 10:23   #41
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"1 pinnacle NSW gen 3 binoculars"

you bastard! post some pics!!!

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Old October 9th, 2011, 11:14   #42
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Got my milspec tube from double tap and it is awesome. Played a few night games with it and I'm unbelievably happy with it's resolution. I rolled with a gen 1+ for about 4 years and was fairly happy with it's ability to fill in the details of some darker areas, but it never really gave you the whole picture. My new d300 fills in those darker areas and really gives me a complete picture.

Gen 1's are fun and at least get you a glimpse into the world of night vision. If you want something that that actually let's you see at night, get a gen 2+ milspec or better.

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Old October 9th, 2011, 11:25   #43
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There is no "Gen 4"

The only generations of nightvision (Set by ITT, because it's their wording and solution) are Generation 1, Generation 2, Generation 3

Generation 3 Autogated Omni 7 would be the "Generation 4"

However they have not named the technologies as such.
ah sorry my mistake.

Is alpha optics in canada?
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Old October 9th, 2011, 11:42   #44
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ah sorry my mistake.

Is alpha optics in canada?
Burlington, ON. Good prices for their gen 2/2+. I need to start budgeting for an nvg for next year...
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Burlington, ON. Good prices for their gen 2/2+. I need to start budgeting for an nvg for next year...

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