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Old September 18th, 2011, 20:41   #1
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Quality Brand BB Recommendation

Hello all, are there any good listings of the quality level of BB's these days.. I found one but it was years outdated and didn't have WE Match-Grade/Precision Grade etc. Also no reviews on BioBB's

I know pretty much TM brand is always going to be good, but I'm looking for opinions on good outdoor gaming BB's in bio and non-bio..

And standard quality indoor plinking BB's.

Thoughts?
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Old September 18th, 2011, 20:50   #2
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Old September 18th, 2011, 20:57   #3
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What he said they're quality BB's and won't mess up your gun and feed well.
You can get them here: http://www.bbbastard.com/ or at your local airsoft retailer if your in the GTA.
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Old September 18th, 2011, 21:05   #4
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I've tried KSC, BB bastard, guarder, flying color, and firepower
BB bastards soars above everyone else in quality, and their bioBBs are fantastic.
KSC has the same accuracy, however I haven't seen them in the incredibly useful .28g range. They're also fairly brittle and break/explode when they hit hard surfaces. Pretty sure bastards are less expensive anyway
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Old September 18th, 2011, 21:06   #5
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Old September 18th, 2011, 23:50   #6
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Old September 19th, 2011, 00:01   #7
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Old September 19th, 2011, 03:13   #8
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Alright- well that's a wrap. Looks like the job is done here. We will pick this back up next post.
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Old September 19th, 2011, 08:17   #9
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Bioval BB's are good too.
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Old September 19th, 2011, 09:07   #10
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Old September 19th, 2011, 09:15   #11
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Also check out Airsoft Central BBs. (http://www.airsoftcentral.ca). They are also Canadian and are polished more times with fewer air bubbles. From experimenting with them, they fly straighter and farther than any other BB I've used. However...I know of several guns that they don't feed in at all. It seems like they either work extraordinarily well or not at all. So, I use Airsoft Central and BBBastard.
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Old September 19th, 2011, 10:36   #12
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the air bubble is supposed to be there, and to be centered.
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Old September 19th, 2011, 11:35   #13
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the air bubble is supposed to be there, and to be centered.
Um, no.

The air bubble is there because it is a byproduct of the manufacturing process. During manufacture, as the BB is formed, any air collects and concatenates towards the centre of the BB. Most of the air will collapse into a single bubble, which may or may not be formed off-centre (most will be on-centre). In higher-quality BBs, the goal is to either minimize or eliminate the air bubble.

BB Bastards (BBB) and Airsoft Central (AC) both manufacture high quality BBs. The BBBs I've cut open typically do not have an air bubble, though they do tend to have more like a "foamy" centre - which sort of distributes the "air bubble" around so that the BB is significantly less likely to be lopsided. The ACs I've cut open were solid all the way through, so the odds of them shooting lopsided is practically nil.

I'm planning to run BBB and AC comparisons for similar weights sometime in the next month. BBB will include the standard and bio rounds, AC just standard rounds. I may throw in other manufacturers also, depending on what I have laying around, again just to compare.

And if I'm feeling REALLY productive, I may post on the subject.
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Old September 19th, 2011, 12:18   #14
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BB bastards have worked really well for our team. In fact that's all we've run for the past few years. We've tried most everything under the sun, and they stand out. All of our PTW's, AEG's, GBB's, GBBR's, Springers have run them Bio and standard. They shoot straight, far and don't cause gun problems. I.E. Chopping, misfeeding, hooking, Breaking ...ect.
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In higher-quality BBs, the goal is to either minimize or eliminate the air bubble.

BB Bastards (BBB) and Airsoft Central (AC) both manufacture high quality BBs. The BBBs I've cut open typically do not have an air bubble, though they do tend to have more like a "foamy" centre - which sort of consistently distributes the "air bubble" around so that the BB is significantly less likely to be lopsided. The ACs I've cut open were solid all the way through, so the odds of them shooting lopsided is practically nil.
Essentially accurate. Bubble elimination is an opinion, and I don't agree on that point.

As pointed out, the elimination of unevenly distributed material, regardless of choosing the donut center or the foam strategy. BB Bastard settled on what we settled on, anyone can chop a BB to confirm it. We've been doing that for about 7 years now, as we refined our processed with feedback from players and our own testing. While the visible factors are easy to see, there are a number of other manufacturing processes that can affect distribution that are not visible - only the result - a good BB.

BB material is 95% the same from formulation to formulation, hence a set mass of material will be used in whatever weight you're making. With our formulation, BBs without an air relief occur at about the .30g mark. Weight additives occur around the .34g mark, hence why .36g and .40g appear to have the colors they do - its the weight additive.

Its not so much relevant as to whether you have visible bubbles or not, what is important is the distribution by weight. The more even the distribution, the fewer fliers and the greater accuracy you'll experience so long as the AEG is properly tuned from mag to feedpath.

Improper hopup, dirty barrels, bad hopup rubbers, barrel crowning, barrel fitment, feedpath cleanliness, mag to hopup alignment, etc, all impact accuracy as well. In my experience there are a lot of factors you need to address before you'll maximize your BB performance. The guns coming out of boxes are getting much better (by a LARGE margin), but any good gundoc will tell you, accurization is an art and skill that even the best out-of-the-box platform can benefit from tuning. Bench the gun, use our accurization BBs with a BB capture system and you can tune the gun with some consistency. Better yet, contract to one of the mirade of experienced gundocs here if you're new to the sport or AEG-mechanically challenged. I no longer tune my guns, Renegade is far better at it than me, so, to me its worth a few bucks to maximize performance. Then you can take advantage of a good BB design.
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