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Old September 16th, 2011, 03:25   #1
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Question Building an AEG from scratch; a question about internals.

I'm not new to airsoft, and I have disassembled gearboxes, but what I don't know is, what are good vs bad internals in terms if quality? It's not something I've had to look into before.

I'm not looking for Systema-grade internals, but I want a gun that works. I want opinions on whether these will be at least average to good, G&P has a good rep as far as I know:

http://torontoairsoft.com/product.php?id_product=1064
http://torontoairsoft.com/product.php?id_product=1069
http://torontoairsoft.com/product.php?id_product=1333

Thoughts?
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Old September 16th, 2011, 03:41   #2
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First two are fine, I wouldn't get a JG hopup though.
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Old September 16th, 2011, 04:35   #3
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G&P is tank for externals, their internals are pretty good as far as stock parts go, but you absolutely need to shim the gears properly before using the gun.
And systema makes good M4 hop chambers
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Old September 16th, 2011, 11:36   #4
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Only thing I'd change is a Modify, Prommy, or Guarder hop up.

The motor is alright but I'd probably go Guarder or TM EG1000 (they're beasts, I have one myself pulling an SP110+ (gives me 410 FPS)).

PS: My setup is an EG1000 Torque and High Speed gears, weird right? But it works.
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Old September 16th, 2011, 12:17   #5
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The TM EG1000 is the high speed motor, the EG700 is the torque motor
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Old September 16th, 2011, 22:56   #6
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I could have sworn that it said "Hi-Torque" on the sticker on the motor.

Also, it was an "EG MAX Hyper 1000" if that's actually a different motor.
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Old September 17th, 2011, 06:29   #7
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Thanks for all the help I'll get the gearbox and motor, and get the gearbox shimmed, but a different hopup chamber.
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The TM EG1000 is the high speed motor, the EG700 is the torque motor
Agreed. The EG700 is also quieter.
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Old September 17th, 2011, 14:23   #9
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for the price of those motors why not by an acm neo magnet motor....? more torque more speed better quality takes more abuse.
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Old September 17th, 2011, 16:10   #10
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for the price of those motors why not by an acm neo magnet motor....? more torque more speed better quality takes more abuse.
Quality? Compared to a TM?
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The TM EG700 is a tank of a motor. Not high performance, but reliable, efficient, excellent for builds under 400fps.
G&P M120-M170 easily handles anything from 380-470 fps at any RPM. But I've burned out two of them with 11.1v LiPos after a year.
If you're looking for something to push 400fps at 1500rpm, I've got an eagle force EF1300 motor in my 249 that's just a monster. Super efficient, real high torque, only drawback is it doesn't have the rpm of the G&P M140. But I'm running triple torque gears so that I could use a higher speed motor instead of a high torque motor.
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Old September 17th, 2011, 19:57   #12
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I doubt that gearbox is over 400 fps, I'm not using lipos, I'm not looking for super rate of fire, and I'm not that trigger happy, should the G&P M120 be fine?
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G&P M120 or TM EG700
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Old September 18th, 2011, 10:33   #14
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for the price of those motors why not by an acm neo magnet motor....? more torque more speed better quality takes more abuse.
I agree, Element motors are superb, people have gotten over 45 RPS single sector gear with those.
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