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Old August 17th, 2011, 03:26   #16
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You should probably put that in your profile so people can help you easier.
Also, you don't have to do everything yourself, you can give it to a gundoc.
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Old August 18th, 2011, 01:23   #17
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Since I cannot find a charger with the mini tamiya plug, I can't charge my mini 8.4v...

I need to get a new battery so can anyone recommend anything? Or should I just stick to this brand because I have gotten a lemon.

Also, I think that some gundocs might object to servicing an underager's gun....
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Old August 18th, 2011, 02:54   #18
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Since I cannot find a charger with the mini tamiya plug, I can't charge my mini 8.4v...

I need to get a new battery so can anyone recommend anything? Or should I just stick to this brand because I have gotten a lemon.

Also, I think that some gundocs might object to servicing an underager's gun....
buy a adapter.
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Old August 18th, 2011, 03:57   #19
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buy a adapter.
Make an adapter. Or have someone make one for you (essentially buying one I guess).
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Old August 18th, 2011, 11:23   #20
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Here's what I think happened to your lipo :

1- 11.1 15c getting hot fast : the discharge rate of you're battery is too low for your gun.
2- "I get is a click that usually happens when I am low on juice" : If this happens you discharge the battery way too much.
3- Firefox batteries are just ok, try a better brand.

Conclusion that battery is dead, discharge it properly and send it for recycling.
What you need to do : Get a proper battery with at least 20c discharge rate (higher is even better). Get a good balance charger. Always balance charge the battery and use the storage mode on the charger after each game. This will allow you to keep the battery working for a long time.
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Old August 18th, 2011, 21:22   #21
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@brayden and styrak, I will probably get my local hobby shop owner to make me one. I don't think he'll mind.

@cbourdeau, can you recommend a better battery? Because I cannot seem to find one that is this size.
Also, my battery has only been used like 7 or 8 times. That's not much considering my 11.1v battery for my R/C models have been used close to 200 times without any problems and I don't even balance charge it.
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Old August 18th, 2011, 21:37   #22
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also, never run a lithium battery dead, it kills them.
my company bought a whole bunch of makita 18v pover tools, one guy insisted they needed to be completely dead, so he would put them in the drill and tie the trigger down until it stopped, he needed to get replacment batteries 3 time in as many years, and makita wouldnt warranty them because the chip inside showed just what he had done. we have guys who switch batteries with fresh ones every hour or better, and they have batteries going on 7 years now
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Old August 19th, 2011, 17:02   #23
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Well best thing is to get a battery that is used for RC cars. You will need a battery case to use it tough because it probably won't fit in you're gun. Next thing is you can check hobbyking they have a section for airsoft batteries now. They are not the best but should last a while and RC car drivers seem to like them for a cheap alternative to better batteries.
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Old August 20th, 2011, 00:22   #24
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Sorry for being such a noob, but what am I looking at in terms of cost for a cheap-medium battery case?
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Old August 20th, 2011, 02:49   #25
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please STOP you are not addressing the issue that caused this. you said you REQUIRE an 11.1 v batt to turn it over... that means to us gun docs there is an issue in the gun. I am sorry but the advice being given is skewed. what kind of charger do you posses, is it lipo capable... is it nimh capable...(not all chargers will charge every type of battery) you said it doesnt discharge so that throws cbourdeau idea of to many discharges out window and buying a battery with a higher discharge rate will not help, your gun is pulling to many amps for a reason. running the battery lower then 3.0 Volts per cell means dont recharge that battery agian they are not meant to be drained that far. do you have a device to monitor cell voltage...? storage mode is not needed in between games, I dont even bother to do it for extended periods and have lipos running for years, balance charging is not needed everytime either. do you know that without a mosfet installed you are slowly burning your trigger contacts to nothing?

If any of this is giving you the "uhhhh whattt is he saying" feeling you need to re-think the lipo idea. just do some heavey research on how to properly use them and maintain them.


All I can suggest is have the gun checked out and tell them you want it to run on a large 9.6v battery and go that route. If they have issues accomplishing that then you need a new gun doc.

This of course is MY opinion but please at the least do a little research into the use of lipos.
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Old August 20th, 2011, 21:22   #26
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I know how to use LiPos...I've been using them for years in other applications.

Also, I do think there's an issue in this gun because my 8.4 cannot turn it over when I tried about 5 minutes ago. And I had just finished charging that pack.

I think I'm going to take this to the place where I bought it from and ask them what they can do about it.

My charger can charge all the current nickel and lithium batteries that are out there. I can't monitor cell voltage, but I'm getting a new charger for that....

._."

Time to see what they can do about my gun...which means tomorrow I'm heading out to Pacific Mall.....
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Old August 20th, 2011, 21:41   #27
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Time to see what they can do about my gun...which means tomorrow I'm heading out to Pacific Mall.....
Take it to an actual gun doctor....not the retailer you bought it from.
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Old August 20th, 2011, 21:53   #28
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Time to see what they can do about my gun...which means tomorrow I'm heading out to Pacific Mall.....
Another Ken 'upgraded' gun maybe? I have a problem with him about a WE M4 that was 'upgraded'. obviously not related to batteries though.

ps, pacific mall sells to minors now?
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Old August 20th, 2011, 22:50   #29
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I guess that I should actually go find a gun doctor...one who is willing to service my gun...

@W0lf: Another person did indeed upgrade my gun so that it was Canadian legal. I won't give out names as to protect their identities. Also, no, Pacific Mall doesn't sell guns to minors but they have no problem selling things like lighters and knives to minors...O.O When I say knives I mean things like tactical folders. No, I haven't bought one.
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Old August 21st, 2011, 16:57   #30
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@Iggys : I never said that he discharged his battery with his charger, maybe you should reread my post... Here it is just for you :

"Here's what I think happened to your lipo :

1- 11.1 15c getting hot fast : the discharge rate of you're battery is too low for your gun.
2- "I get is a click that usually happens when I am low on juice" : If this happens you discharge the battery way too much.
3- Firefox batteries are just ok, try a better brand.

Conclusion that battery is dead, discharge it properly and send it for recycling.
What you need to do : Get a proper battery with at least 20c discharge rate (higher is even better). Get a good balance charger. Always balance charge the battery and use the storage mode on the charger after each game. This will allow you to keep the battery working for a long time."

Now I'm not suggesting he doesn't have a problem with his gun, I'm just saying he should change his battery because from the looks of it, he killed it. Just curious, have you tried one of these FireFox baterries? I borrowed one from one of my friends last week just for testing and it overheated in less than a minute in my gun. The only mod I have is a AWS Raptor mosfet and my gears are shimmed correctly. I normaly use 9.6v without issues.
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