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Old July 25th, 2011, 13:51   #1
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Scammed when buying from classifieds need advice please read!!!

Hey guys,

I have a huge problem... I just joined airsoft canada not too long ago, and I have been wanting to join for ages so I could buy from the classifieds. About two weeks ago, I made my first purchase, a CYMA M14 from a user with the screen name mcgruber. His real name being Deiter Gruber, but I'm not sure if that is fake or not.

The ad said that it came with a new G&G mechbox. Through countless emails, I asked various questions, including the fps, condition and if everything worked perfectly. He told me that it shot 380 fps, it was in perfect condition and everything worked amazing.

When I got it (about 3 days ago) I was excited, I put the battery in and it cycled fine, but didn't seem to have much pressure. Yesterday I took it to a game at adrenaline paintballs outdoor field and was incredibly disappointed. It cronographed at 150 fps, 8 of the 13 mags did not feed, the bolt assembly was broken, the fire selector switch was missing and the safety did not work whatsoever.

Upon having one of the gun techs open the gun up on site, we found out it did not have a G&G mechbox, but a cheap Chinese made one, and the piston had been replaced with one too small for the cylinder, resulting in a huge loss of pressure. We also found various parts such as springs, and one shim missing. The guys there at the field told me to post something on ASC to see what everyone else thought, I have sent an email to him asking for my money back in exchange for the rifle, but he is not responding. Is there a way to get ahold of a moderator about this? I am new, and really don't know the whole works.

What should I do? I spent 450 dollars on the gun, and I have no clue what I should do... Please any advice is helpful.. I'm an 18 year old dude and I saved forever for that gun. Thanks so much,

Deven.


timeline of events;

Jun 24: I saw his ad for a CYMA M14 with a G&G mechbox and 13 mags for 450.

Jun 30th: after messaging back and forth on ASC, we moved to hotmail so he could receive messages to his phone. This was also the first day I had said I was interested in purchasing the gun.

July 5: I let him know that I would have the money by the coming friday for the gun.

July 6: He gave me his banking information, and told me the gun shot 370 fps and all the mags worked perfectly and that he would ship the same day.

July 7: I let him know that I had EMT'd the money to him, and he said he would ship the gun in the morning.

July 11: Package was returned to him, he must have written the wrong shipping address. It was re-sent that day.

July 19: Gun arrives. I opened the box to find everything he said should be there, and after looking a bit I saw that the bolt was broken, and one of the mags would not lock into the gun. I didn't investigate much more. I left a positive feedback for him, thinking everything was good.

July 24: I played a walk on game at Adrenaline paintball field. Before playing you have to chrono to make sure your shooting within the limits, I chrono'd the gun and it shot anywhere between 125-200 fps, and was very staggard sounding, and it would shoot full auto in semi. The safety did not work at all. I also noticed that some of the mags did not feed. At this point I was very frustrated, so I had one of the gun techs on site open the gun up to see what was wrong. First off, they said that springs were missing causing the fire selector and safety not to work. Second, they saw that the mechbox was not G&G made. Third, they noticed that the piston meant to be in the cylinder had been swapped out for one too small so that there was hardly any compression then cycled. 8 of the total 13 mags did not feed properly. That night I sent a message to him regarding the issues, but have yet to hear back.

July 25: Added another up to date trade rating for him, and posted this thread to let others know. Talked with some guys at adrenaline paintball for advice, and they said to give it 3 or 4 days for him to come clean before getting too into things.

July 27: Still no reply

July 28: He has responded saying if I would like a refund he will deal with it soon. I sent him my refund request, pending an email back.
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Old July 25th, 2011, 14:09   #2
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First order of business would be to change the positive rating you left him into a negative one detailing the problem. This would serve to warn others who might be contemplating a transaction with him.
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Old July 25th, 2011, 14:14   #3
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First, your screen cap is unreadable.

Please provide a rough timeline of everything, from the initial contact to now.

Deep breaths, most often these things get solved. Any reason why you originally left a positive feedback? Two separate transactions?
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Old July 25th, 2011, 14:14   #4
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These threads are always pointless.
Include the other parties name both on ASC and their actual name.
Also their location so that anyone near them may be able to expedite things.
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Old July 25th, 2011, 14:16   #5
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First, your screen cap is unreadable.

Please provide a rough timeline of everything, from the initial contact to now.

Deep breaths, most often these things get solved. Any reason why you originally left a positive feedback? Two separate transactions?

I had left a positive when the gun first arrived, because out of the box everything seemed fine, it wasn't until I fielded it that I realized all the issues. I didn't shoot any rounds through it initially until I had it on the field, so I didn't know until then. By that time, the option to edit my trade rating was gone, so I added a new one.
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Old July 25th, 2011, 14:18   #6
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These threads are always pointless.
Include the other parties name both on ASC and their actual name.
Also their location so that anyone near them may be able to expedite things.
Your saying I should include his location and real name? Because I can add that, if its relevant. I just wasn't sure how much information I was allowed to post.
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Old July 25th, 2011, 14:19   #7
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If you have revived something that wasn't as advertised and aren't getting any response. Id say put them on the spot to fix things.
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Old July 25th, 2011, 14:32   #8
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First, your screen cap is unreadable.

Please provide a rough timeline of everything, from the initial contact to now.

Deep breaths, most often these things get solved. Any reason why you originally left a positive feedback? Two separate transactions?
Done.
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If you have revived something that wasn't as advertised and aren't getting any response. Id say put them on the spot to fix things.
Very true, I will add his information to this thread.
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Old July 25th, 2011, 16:54   #10
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Oh man people are just stupid... Im not gonna rant here cause I just did in Ronald's problem. But Neved I hope you get it fixed ASAP!
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Old July 25th, 2011, 17:39   #11
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Just in case anyone were to call Neved4eyes' version of things I would like to add that I was there while he chrono'd the gun and when it was torn down on my table by a gun tech. As he is a good young guy working hard to save up his coin to buy a decent gun to go out and have fun with this pisses me off to no end! It was a pleasure to make the acquaintence of an 18yr old young adult who is on the right path (he is working on joining the CF!) and to see him get hosed is unacceptable. It is my hope that the seller makes good and refunds his money and he can buy another M14 that works well!!

Off the soapbox and I hope this turns out for you Neved!!!! See you in two weeks!!
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Just in case anyone were to call Neved4eyes' version of things I would like to add that I was there while he chrono'd the gun and when it was torn down on my table by a gun tech. As he is a good young guy working hard to save up his coin to buy a decent gun to go out and have fun with this pisses me off to no end! It was a pleasure to make the acquaintence of an 18yr old young adult who is on the right path (he is working on joining the CF!) and to see him get hosed is unacceptable. It is my hope that the seller makes good and refunds his money and he can buy another M14 that works well!!

Off the soapbox and I hope this turns out for you Neved!!!! See you in two weeks!!
I hope so as well. See we save up our hard earned money to buy guns and he was unfortunate enough to get screwed over. I really hope he gets his money back.
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Old July 25th, 2011, 18:14   #13
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Please people, stop posting in such threads if you don't have anything relevant to add.

Saying "this guy is evil, I hope you get a reinbursement" may feel good, but it doesn't add anything useful.

This will help getting them free of clutter to get straight to the needed info.

Thank you.
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Old July 25th, 2011, 18:54   #14
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Please people, stop posting in such threads if you don't have anything relevant to add.

Saying "this guy is evil, I hope you get a reinbursement" may feel good, but it doesn't add anything useful.

This will help getting them free of clutter to get straight to the needed info.

Thank you.
Thanks man, but I guess its just people expressing their concern. Do you think ASC will look into this thread and help deal with the issue? Or is there really any point in posting this thread?
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Old July 25th, 2011, 19:12   #15
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You need to give the staff here a chance to respond. Most if not all of them have full time jobs. Getting on here and expecting a fix in a couple of hours in unrealistic. This is not their job, they don't get paid for this!
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