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Old July 7th, 2011, 13:45   #1
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Hello All, Couple of quick questions regarding old school airsoft.

I have a KHC Beretta M92F non blowback and runs on Flon B.

1.) What can I use instead of flon B (Freon 12) to run this gun?

2.) This gun is from the beginnings of airsoft around the 1980's, does anyone have any clue what sort of value?
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Old July 10th, 2011, 03:57   #2
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You can switch to HFC134a (which replaced Freon 12). It has about the same pressures and tolerances.

As for worth? That I don't know. I'd assume as a collector piece, it'd fetch a pretty penny, but as a fieldable piece, there's probably better items (mags? parts? etc.). It's a toss-up. You'd have to find a collector willing to pay a premium above a similar gun's price for its collectible nature. Rarity also factors into it as well.

I'd look at what a similar gun will fetch now, how rare the piece is and play up its collectability if you plan on selling it.
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Old July 10th, 2011, 11:21   #3
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The KHC M92F was first made in 1998. Based on Yahoo Japan it has a current retail value of between $30 and $60 USD (3,000 to 5,000 YEN.) I picked mine up about 2 years ago for $35 USD. I have not tried a different gas in mine, but it would not hurt to try duster gas if the adapter will fit the fill nozzle.

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Old July 10th, 2011, 14:36   #4
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KHC is a japan company?? I bet its the crappiest!
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Old July 10th, 2011, 14:52   #5
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KHC is a japan company?? I bet its the crappiest!
Based upon what?
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KHC is a japan company?? I bet its the crappiest!
Can't speak about the M9 as I have never owned one, but the KHC Maverick was a neat gun.

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Old July 10th, 2011, 15:24   #7
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is that a shotgun? :S
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Old July 10th, 2011, 15:33   #8
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Based upon what?
obviously based on his comprehensive and deep knowledge of every japanese airsoft brand ever, and definitely not making dumb assumptions based on nothing
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Based upon what?

you get what you paid ..
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is that a shotgun? :S
Yes, it's a replica of a Mossberg 500 bullpup shotgun

http://world.guns.ru/shotgun/usa/mossberg-500-e.html
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Does anyone else think the "C" in KHC kind of looks like the "C" in the KWC logo? Or as a matter of fact the entire logo kind of looks like a ripoff of the KWC logo or vice versa?
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you get what you paid ..
But it being made in Japan has no bearing on that. Some of the best airsoft guns period are made in Japan.
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obviously based on his comprehensive and deep knowledge of every japanese airsoft brand ever, and definitely not making dumb assumptions based on nothing
You mean like you keep doing?
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