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Old May 31st, 2011, 18:04   #1
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FPS Classification

I was told that their is a specific FPS Classification between full metal guns and guns with a plastic receiver. My source could not tell me more about it and it made me curious.. Anyone can tell me more about it?
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Old May 31st, 2011, 18:10   #2
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Plastic or metal don't make any differences. If by plastic your "source" meant *clear* receiver, there might be a slight diff as it *may* fall into a different category when it comes to gun classification (replica vs uncontrolled firearm vs whatvever)

But all in all it doesn't change anything. 300fps is still 300fps no matter what shoots the BB, right?

But more importantly, I have to ask, despite my answer: what do you mean, or what is it you want to know exactly?
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Old May 31st, 2011, 18:15   #3
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My thought is that he gave me a random answer so i wont keep on asking why he can provide full metal guns but he cant get me a full metal receiver set. I just wanted to be sure that "classification" wasn't a lie.
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Old May 31st, 2011, 18:18   #4
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I think he may be speaking of this classification

http://www.007airsoft.com/legality.htm

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Canada's System (last updated March 19 /2011)

In Canada, this is how firearms / replica firearms / Airsoft guns / air guns are classified: (reference: CBSA Memorandom D19-13-2 pages 8-16)
Air (Toy) Gun :
There is no official definition for an "air gun" in Canada's legislation. But for the most part, an air gun is a barrelled device that does NOT resemble a real firearm. Its projectile must NOT be able to cause serious bodily harm. These devices are not considered firearms. (Daisy / Crosman air guns, and Airsoft guns with clear bodies, etc ). If you have an air gun that does resemble a real firearm closely, it could be classified as a replica firearm depending on muzzle velocity and muzzle energy (see below).
Replica Firearm:
A device that resembles a real firearm but cannot fire a projectile, or its projectile cannot cause serious bodily harm. Replica firearms are prohibited devices (most AEG's and GBB pistols). Prohibited devices are not the same things as prohibited firearms.
Firearm:
A barrelled device firing a projectile able to cause serious bodily harm. For CBSA's purpose, all firearms are separated into either controlled firearms, or un-controlled firearms.
Controlled:
A firearm with muzzle velocity above 500 FPS AND muzzle energy above 5.7 Joules. Serial number, registration, Firearm Possession and Acquisition License (PAL) are required to import / purchase and possess any controlled firearms
Un-Controlled:
A firearm with muzzle velocity below 500 FPS OR muzzle energy below 5.7 Joules. There is no serial number, registration, license or permit required to import / purchase / own such un-controlled firearms.

Serious Bodily Harm:
A 0.2g 6mm Airsoft BB at 407FPS or higher is able to cause serious bodily harm. (Ref: CBSA Memorandom D19-13-2, Page 15)
Fact :
A 0.2g 6mm Airsoft BB at 785FPS generates a muzzle energy of 5.7 Joules. As calculated by the Airsoft FPS / Energy Calculator .
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Old May 31st, 2011, 18:28   #5
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Thanks :P

My question now is do you guys think it was a legal or a "do not want to" issue that made him refuse to get sell it to me?
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Old May 31st, 2011, 18:36   #6
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Thanks :P

My question now is do you guys think it was a legal or a "do not want to" issue that made him refuse to get sell it to me?
If something is full metal, it maybe considered a replica and therefore illegal.
OR uncontrolled firearm if it is able to cause bodily harm.

[edit]* if the plastic on the gun is painted, it is also considered a replica. To be considered a toy - it must contain CLEAR plastic. (usually lower receiver, and sometimes tinted clear plastic.)

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Old May 31st, 2011, 18:38   #7
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Thanks alot mate :P
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Old May 31st, 2011, 20:04   #8
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I like how specific "serious bodily harm" is... and how specific they are at 407 fps lol. Where 406 won't cause serious bodily harm, while 408 definitely will. Maybe permanent bodily harm, which is still somewhat vague, but serious is quite relative.
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I like how specific "serious bodily harm" is... and how specific they are at 407 fps lol. Where 406 won't cause serious bodily harm, while 408 definitely will. Maybe permanent bodily harm, which is still somewhat vague, but serious is quite relative.
I line needs to be drawn somewhere. If you are vague with written law, leads to loop holes and confusion.
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If something is full metal, it maybe considered a replica and therefore illegal.
OR uncontrolled firearm if it is able to cause bodily harm.
Plastic rifles are also considered replicas.
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Old May 31st, 2011, 21:31   #11
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Plastic rifles are also considered replicas.
alright alright... FIXED!


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Old May 31st, 2011, 21:36   #12
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The person who you talked to was being vague about it or giving the simple short answer. But he is right and wasn't BSing you, receivers are far more tricky and some people cannot even import them and some of those who can won't due the extra trouble they cause.

There are a few threads with in the AV'd area that go in to more detail of this stuff.
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Old May 31st, 2011, 22:31   #13
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The CBSA Memorandum D19-13-2 and you...

Infraction: Showing non verified members how to import/purchase guns. This is a serious no no.

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Old June 1st, 2011, 15:11   #14
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Plastic rifles are also considered replicas.
doesn't matter what they are made out of.....
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doesn't matter what they are made out of.....
That was his point.....
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